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Mar 5 2017 08:27am
Quote (luckspin @ Mar 5 2017 09:19am)
Lel

Bro, the pills, TAKE THE GOD DAMN PILLS!

I heard phycologists have started scanning online forums and chat rooms to pinpoint people with signs of mental health problems. Thankfully the science section has only 10-15 regulars, we'll get u professional help in no time!



To bad none of them are going to sign up for jsp.

This post was edited by Ep0ch on Mar 5 2017 08:27am
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Mar 5 2017 08:34am
Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 01:05am)
Pythagorean math for a sphere proves the earth is flat since no one has ever been able to show a curve exists irl.


You're just making that up, which is so typical for you. There's no such thing as "Pythagorean math." There's the Pythagorean theorem, which is mathematical proofs for triangular shapes.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 01:05am)
Also the mountains prove it, water is always flat proves it , engineering proves it, planular surveying proves it, crepuscular rays prove it, selenelion eclipse prove it, all tests irl prove it , the bedford level experiment proves it, airy's failure proves it.


Unfounded, unfounded, unfounded, unfounded, debunked previously, debunked previously, debunked previously, the experiment proved the opposite, failure to what? Einstein has proved that aether doesn't exist.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 01:05am)
The horizon always appears perfectly flat – except in NASA and other government pictures, which are obviously faked (as part of the global conspiracy)


Appearing to be flat is not the same thing as actually being flat. Failed logic on your part. A conspiracy to what end? Seriously.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 01:05am)
You never have to look down to see the horizon, no matter how hard you rise. If Earth were a real globe you’d have to look down


Until you measure it precisely, you can't tell the difference. "Down" is relative.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 01:05am)
If Earth really was a sphere hurtling through space, the water would be wobbling all over the place, instead of staying flat.


There is nothing in space to cause "wobbling." There is no resistance. No friction. No aether.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 01:05am)
If Earth really was a globe, rivers such as the Mississipi would have to flow uphill to reach the sea – flowing uphill 11 miles in its 3,000-mile length.


11 miles further from the center of the Earth due to Earth's bulging towards the equator =/= 11 miles uphill. 11 miles further from center of mass means 11 miles of ever so slightly less gravitational pull. You have the weakest arguments, I swear.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 01:05am)
If Earth really was a spinning sphere, helicopters would be able to hover in place and wait for their destinations to come to them.


You can lie until you're blue in the face, but it has been explained to you ad nauseum that the atmosphere moves with the planet.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 01:05am)
The railway from London to Liverpool is 180 miles long. If Earth really was a globe, it should be 5,400 feet high over Birmingham. There is not.


No, it should be "5,400" (your number, not mine) feet over a line drawn directly from one end to the other, a line which must, logically speaking with regards to a globe model, pass through the ground to be perfectly straight.



To be continued in a followup post...
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Mar 5 2017 09:01am
Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 01:05am)
If Earth really was a globe, airline pilots would constantly have to adjust their controls so as not to fly off into space. They do not.


No, they have to make constant course adjustments to fly the most efficient route. It's called great circle navigation. For someone who pretends to understand everything having to do with heliocentricity, you are once again showing incredible ignorance.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 01:05am)
If there actually were billions of stars in the night sky (Flat Earthers think there aren’t), the entire sky would be full of light.


Redshift solves Olber's paradox.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 01:05am)
If Earth was constantly spinning, aeroplanes would never be able to reach their destinations due to the 1000 mph headwind.


Again, the atmosphere moves with the planet. FFS, how can you not understand this simple concept of physics? There is no "headwind" other than RELATIVE changes in air speed.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 01:05am)
If Earth really is spinning, bullets fired upwards would land hundreds of feet Westwards. They don’t.
If the Earth was really spinning at 1000 mph to the east - you'd never be able to talk to people standing west of you since sound only travels at 767 mph.


The bullet leaves the barrel with the same forward (eastward) momentum as the gun it's fired from that remains behind. Yes, if it was fired perfectly straight up and flew long and high enough before it came back down, it would come back down slightly west, but they simply won't remain in the air that long.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 01:36am)
Just because you come up with a stupid reason, doesn't actually disprove anything, it just proves you've long ago hit the wall of learning and refuse to scale anything new.


If something you claim is a fact can be falsified, then it isn't a fact. As they say, you are entitled to your own opinions, but you aren't entitled to your own facts. When you see your "facts" falsified and you fail to change your conclusion drawn from them, all that makes you is dishonest.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 01:36am)
but i eagly await smashing your reply and pointing out your illogical fantasies - especially if you find a comment on the last one - earth moves at 1000 mph but sound only travels at 767 mph - how can you talk to anyone west of you - sound won't reach them will it shill?


The Earth's surface moves east relative to a line drawn between the poles. SO DOES THE ATMOSPHERE. That means that sound traveling east at sea level is travelling 1767 mph relative to the line drawn through the planet.

Quote (tard_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 01:36am)
How bout this one - if gravity is keeping all the water on a spinning ball, and you think that dropping things proves gravity - how come when i jump in water i float - shouldn't i fall to the bottom of the ocean cause the earth is sucking me in? Is there no earth below water?


You will sink to the bottom of the water, unless you happen to maintain a level of buoyancy great enough to offset it. Try jumping into water and NOT swim or keep a full breath of air in your lungs.
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Mar 5 2017 12:06pm
Quote (Santara @ Mar 5 2017 04:34am)
You're just making that up, which is so typical for you. There's no such thing as "Pythagorean math." There's the Pythagorean theorem, which is mathematical proofs for triangular shapes.


completely wrong as usual, no one has ever debunked this math or shown a real life example of the curve you claim exists but is not there, and pictures that use a wide angle lense dont count. We know that trick.



Quote (Santara @ Mar 5 2017 04:34am)
Unfounded, unfounded, unfounded, unfounded, debunked previously, debunked previously, debunked previously, the experiment proved the opposite, failure to what? Einstein has proved that aether doesn't exist.


wrong, wrong, wrong , wrong, wrong , wrong wrong , wrong, wrong , just because you found a stupid excuse to cling to doesnt debunk anything, are you claiming to be a scientist now too?, Einstein never proved anything, he just did some fantasy math without real life experiments and therefore the two have no correlation - you've just been been spoon feed propaganda. What math or experiment did Einstein do that proved the aether did not exist? Why do they say 95% of "Space" is dark energy or matter but they dont even have a clue what it is, i guess they forgot about the aether :wacko:




Quote (Santara @ Mar 5 2017 04:34am)
Appearing to be flat is not the same thing as actually being flat. Failed logic on your part. A conspiracy to what end? Seriously.


Straight rulers dont lie, you do. I agree its not a conspiracy - it was just propaganda from KIng Henry the VIII and feed into the education system to keep the poor stupid.

Quote (Santara @ Mar 5 2017 04:34am)
Until you measure it precisely, you can't tell the difference. "Down" is relative.



wrong again, down is down, up is up - i think you need to re watch sesame street.

Quote (Santara @ Mar 5 2017 04:34am)
There is nothing in space to cause "wobbling." There is no resistance. No friction. No aether.


So were falling at 500,000 mph and not wobbling? even the slightest? Ok go up in an airplane a drop a bucket full of water and tell me how it doesn't wobble.

Explain what keeps this lake so level but were falling in a spiral motion at 500,000mph , um ok.



Quote (Santara @ Mar 5 2017 04:34am)
11 miles further from the center of the Earth due to Earth's bulging towards the equator =/= 11 miles uphill. 11 miles further from center of mass means 11 miles of ever so slightly less gravitational pull. You have the weakest arguments, I swear.


See this is your problem - you dont even know what down or up is probably because the earth is actually flat

Quote (Santara @ Mar 5 2017 04:34am)
You can lie until you're blue in the face, but it has been explained to you ad nauseum that the atmosphere moves with the planet.


if the atmosphere moves with the planet and the planet is going in a certain direction, then airplanes going in the opposite direction would need to resist the air moving at up to 1000 mph just to account for earth's daily spin , and not even mentioning the 66,600 mph orbit and the 500,000 mph spiral around the galaxy.

because we need to take baby steps for baby minds. :baby:

Quote (Santara @ Mar 5 2017 04:34am)
No, it should be "5,400" (your number, not mine) feet over a line drawn directly from one end to the other, a line which must, logically speaking with regards to a globe model, pass through the ground to be perfectly straight.


Surveyor's proved it's a straight line , in your silly theory , you think it's a curve line so it would be higher in the middle and this is just not true - so more lies, misunderstanding and poor excuses. :bonk:

God grief, another post of your shitty lies to go over , why is it so easy to see through your nonsense?

This post was edited by card_sultan on Mar 5 2017 12:19pm
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Mar 5 2017 12:32pm
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completely wrong as usual, no one has ever debunked this math or shown a real life example of the curve you claim exists but is not there, and pictures that use a wide angle lense dont count. We know that trick.

http://i.imgur.com/gaXb9Ma.png


I want to hear in your own words what you think this picture means and proves or disproves.

This post was edited by Santara on Mar 5 2017 12:37pm
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Mar 5 2017 12:48pm
Quote (Santara @ Mar 5 2017 05:01am)
No, they have to make constant course adjustments to fly the most efficient route. It's called great circle navigation. For someone who pretends to understand everything having to do with heliocentricity, you are once again showing incredible ignorance.


constant course corrections , lol of course they dont need to - talk to a private pilot dude.

Quote (Santara @ Mar 5 2017 05:01am)
Redshift solves Olber's paradox.


to bad redshift does not actually exist :(

Quote (Santara @ Mar 5 2017 05:01am)
Again, the atmosphere moves with the planet. FFS, how can you not understand this simple concept of physics? There is no "headwind" other than RELATIVE changes in air speed.


There is no headwind because the planet does not move, how can you not understand this - it relative speed is zero. :bonk:

Quote (Santara @ Mar 5 2017 05:01am)
The bullet leaves the barrel with the same forward (eastward) momentum as the gun it's fired from that remains behind. Yes, if it was fired perfectly straight up and flew long and high enough before it came back down, it would come back down slightly west, but they simply won't remain in the air that long.


You can fire a gun or cannon straight up and the projectile will fall back down and might even hit you if there is no wind, this shouldn't happen if the earth is spinning , orbiting, and spiraling at breakneck speeds.

Quote (Santara @ Mar 5 2017 05:01am)
f something you claim is a fact can be falsified, then it isn't a fact. As they say, you are entitled to your own opinions, but you aren't entitled to your own facts. When you see your "facts" falsified and you fail to change your conclusion drawn from them, all that makes you is dishonest.


still waiting for you to actually disprove things - all you offer are poor excuses that you have faith in and demand people believe them even though they are provable false.


Quote (Santara @ Mar 5 2017 05:01am)
The Earth's surface moves east relative to a line drawn between the poles. SO DOES THE ATMOSPHERE. That means that sound traveling east at sea level is travelling 1767 mph relative to the line drawn through the planet.


So now you are claiming sound waves break the "fake speed of sound" and sound travels faster in one direction then it does the other - holy crap - what a whopper!

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You will sink to the bottom of the water, unless you happen to maintain a level of buoyancy great enough to offset it. Try jumping into water and NOT swim or keep a full breath of air in your lungs.

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right because of buoyancy and density , not "gravity"
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Mar 5 2017 12:57pm
Quote (Santara @ Mar 5 2017 08:32am)
I want to hear in your own words what you think this picture means and proves or disproves.


no matter where you are on a sphere - the math shows that your perspective is always going down.

you dont need to look down to see the horizon.



Are these two lines completely parallel and flat?

yes.

They only appear to be converging at the vanishing point because of perspective

The math is completely real and it proves that what we see IRL is not congruent with the math of a sphere - this is why it is never taught and why even the Great NDT didnt know it at all.

This post was edited by card_sultan on Mar 5 2017 01:01pm
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Mar 5 2017 03:30pm
Quote (card_sultan @ Mar 5 2017 01:57pm)
no matter where you are on a sphere - the math shows that your perspective is always going down.

you dont need to look down to see the horizon.

http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/train-2.jpg

Are these two lines completely parallel and flat?

yes.

They only appear to be converging at the vanishing point because of perspective

The math is completely real and it proves that what we see IRL is not congruent with the math of a sphere - this is why it is never taught and why even the Great NDT didnt know it at all.





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Quote (card_sultan @ Mar 4 2017 11:05pm)
Pythagorean math for a sphere proves the earth is flat since no one has ever been able to show a curve exists irl.


Look outside the window in an airplane
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Mar 6 2017 08:30pm
I'm honestly a bit surprised that card still hasn't figured out relative velocities. Like... I wouldn't even call it physics, because that makes it sound harder than it really is. It's just basic understanding of how the world around you works. It's the sort of thing I would expect an average person to understand intuitively.
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