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Quote (DieTryin' @ Aug 19 2011 05:48pm)
That's because diet doesn't make you go into remission, drugs do. Diet fixes the underlying cause so there is no need for remission when you are cancer free.

Remission is what they call it when a cancer patient no longer has any signs of cancer.

This post I can agree with. A person's diet IS important in maintaining health, but that's just preventative medicine, and until proven otherwise there's no reason to think the acidity/alkalinity of your diet has anything to do with its positive aspects. It's probably attributed to the fact that it's a more balanced diet with healthier food in general.

But it seems that with this post you have done a 180 from earlier arguments made in this thread. You are no longer arguing that "Medicine = food, not drugs" (post #7), or that "the treatment is a proper diet, not a drug" (post #89). Am I reading that correctly?
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Remission is what they call it when a cancer patient no longer has any signs of cancer.

This post I can agree with. A person's diet IS important in maintaining health, but that's just preventative medicine, and until proven otherwise there's no reason to think the acidity/alkalinity of your diet has anything to do with its positive aspects. It's probably attributed to the fact that it's a more balanced diet with healthier food in general.

But it seems that with this post you have done a 180 from earlier arguments made in this thread. You are no longer arguing that "Medicine = food, not drugs" (post #7), or that "the treatment is a proper diet, not a drug" (post #89). Am I reading that correctly?

Remission is what people go into when there symptoms of cancer or disease are bullied into hiding by drugs, where as with diet, well, cancer ends up in the toilet given enough time.

There's much misconception with an alkaline/acid diet I've noticed, people seem to think that you have to make your body ph super alkaline or something, which is true in extreme cases but only temporary, then after that all you have to do is diet to support the pH of your body which is 7.365. I mean, you can agree that the body must maintain its delicate pH or else we will suffer right? Take into consideration the diet that most people have in our western countries, almost there whole week of eating consists of meat, diary, otc drugs, sugar filled condiments, soft drinks, fast food, alcohol, high sugar sport drinks, etc. All of these things range in pH from like 3.0-6.5 roughly. All of the functions of the body create acid. Now take into consideration that it takes 20 parts alkalinity to neutralize 1 part acidity. This is just to neutralize it, where as the goal is to alkalize. With these things in mind, would it not make sense to keep our diets more alkaline? We must help our bodies support that delicate pH of 7.365, we shouldn't be forcing our bodies to do it on its own which most of us do.

I haven't done a 180, my food is my medicine, and my medicine is my food. Treatment is a proper diet, you can either go into remission by bullying your symptoms into hiding with powerful pharmaceuticals, or you can let your body work its magic given the proper tools.
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Remission is what people go into when there symptoms of cancer or disease are bullied into hiding by drugs, where as with diet, well, cancer ends up in the toilet given enough time.

lmao, you can't possibly think you can shit out cancer... Besides, the medical definition of remission is a state of when a long-term disease or cancer no longer displays any symptoms. Indefinite remission is another way of saying "cured" and yet you're trying to drive a wedge between these just so that you can try to say that your approach is superior to the medical approach.

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There's much misconception with an alkaline/acid diet I've noticed, people seem to think that you have to make your body ph super alkaline or something, which is true in extreme cases but only temporary, then after that all you have to do is diet to support the pH of your body which is 7.365.  I mean, you can agree that the body must maintain its delicate pH or else we will suffer right?

The body maintains its own pH system, and very effectively. I've posted MD sources stating that your food intake has little to no effect on your body's pH. It only affects urinary pH.

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Take into consideration the diet that most people have in our western countries, almost there whole week of eating consists of meat, diary, otc drugs, sugar filled condiments, soft drinks, fast food, alcohol, high sugar sport drinks, etc. All of these things range in pH from like 3.0-6.5 roughly. All of the functions of the body create acid. Now take into consideration that it takes 20 parts alkalinity to neutralize 1 part acidity.

Random statements like this make me think you've never taken a course in chemistry in your life. Acid-base neutralization is a 1-to-1 reaction. One H+ ion neutralizes one OH- ion.

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This is just to neutralize it, where as the goal is to alkalize. With these things in mind, would it not make sense to keep our diets more alkaline? We must help our bodies support that delicate pH of 7.365, we shouldn't be forcing our bodies to do it on its own which most of us do.

Diet doesn't affect blood pH. Think it does? Prove me wrong with a REAL source. No more sketchy websites that look like they were designed using Geocities in the mid-90's or "articles" that are unpublished because they cannot stand up to the peer review process..

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I haven't done a 180, my food is my medicine, and my medicine is my food. Treatment is a proper diet, you can either go into remission by bullying your symptoms into hiding with powerful pharmaceuticals, or you can let your body work its magic given the proper tools.

[citation needed]
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lmao, you can't possibly think you can shit out cancer... Besides, the medical definition of remission is a state of when a long-term disease or cancer no longer displays any symptoms. Indefinite remission is another way of saying "cured" and yet you're trying to drive a wedge between these just so that you can try to say that your approach is superior to the medical approach.


The body maintains its own pH system, and very effectively. I've posted MD sources stating that your food intake has little to no effect on your body's pH. It only affects urinary pH.


Random statements like this make me think you've never taken a course in chemistry in your life. Acid-base neutralization is a 1-to-1 reaction. One H+ ion neutralizes one OH- ion.


Diet doesn't affect blood pH. Think it does? Prove me wrong with a REAL source. No more sketchy websites that look like they were designed using Geocities in the mid-90's or "articles" that are unpublished because they cannot stand up to the peer review process..


[citation needed]

Yes, you literally sweat, shit, and piss it out because all cancer is, is acid poisoning your body, hence the rotting from the inside out. Diet is superior to drugs. It's healthy, safe, no side effects, and when properly done, and with supervision if necessary for the very sick is 100% effective and no ones pocket get fatter.

I see why I stopped posting, you read a couple words out of my sentences then just make stuff up. Obviously the body maintains its own pH, I never said otherwise. The sources posted if I remember correctly said food does not change the pH of the body, which is fine, that is not the goal here, you do not want to change the pH of your body because you would die. You want to support the pH of your body and one very good way to do this is with the things you eat and drink. The body uses alkaline salts found in alkaline foods and supplements just as it uses nutrients. Also, if it only effects urinary pH, how is it that my urine pH for 2-3 months was about 5.5-6.5 while the foods and drinks I consumed had a pH of 11.5? It wasn't until the 4th month when my urine pH finally regulated at about 7.0 on average, and I now drink water at a pH of 9.5.

I don't need to take a chemistry course to know that the ratio to neutralize acidity is 20:1.

Again, the goal is not to raise the pH of the blood, but to support it. Have you showed me any websites proving that the proper alkaline regimen does not work?
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Nov 12 2011 09:06am
Thought i'd Bump this post with an interesting concept i've read about.

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its population control like most things in this day and age...
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Thought i'd Bump this post with an interesting concept i've read about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cUC8tjoB_0


I rofl'd
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Nov 12 2011 10:46am
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I don't need to take a chemistry course to know that the ratio to neutralize acidity is 20:1.

You're right. You would need to not take a chemistry course to "know" that. Because it's absolutely wrong.
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Nov 12 2011 12:49pm
Seriously, from what I read in the past 5 years in forums, you're the most annoying pessimist sheep ever.

Quote (bentherdonethat @ Aug 20 2011 04:02pm)
lmao, you can't possibly think you can shit out cancer... Besides, the medical definition of remission is a state of when a long-term disease or cancer no longer displays any symptoms. Indefinite remission is another way of saying "cured" and yet you're trying to drive a wedge between these just so that you can try to say that your approach is superior to the medical approach.


The body maintains its own pH system, and very effectively. I've posted MD sources stating that your food intake has little to no effect on your body's pH. It only affects urinary pH.


Random statements like this make me think you've never taken a course in chemistry in your life. Acid-base neutralization is a 1-to-1 reaction. One H+ ion neutralizes one OH- ion.


Diet doesn't affect blood pH. Think it does? Prove me wrong with a REAL source. No more sketchy websites that look like they were designed using Geocities in the mid-90's or "articles" that are unpublished because they cannot stand up to the peer review process..


[citation needed]



How dumb! In your world, the acids appear in the urine?



Did you know that some white blood cells can hold the informations about what it fighted for about 50 years? ==>> But they won't tell you and you know why...

Did you already caught Chickenpox? (varicella..)

Mr.Yougn might not seem as professionnal as you think, but this guy was a pionneer in his domain. You just have to read a book from him and you'll understand his works ; He might have cured them only with thaughts ; he's a psychanalist... why do you think placebo effect works : Happy mind , Happy behavior , Happy Body = Better body outputs rather behing sick carving in your sickness.
( Look at how chemistry work in your brain when you're feeling something good or bad.)

Ps : Do you know that electric motors were invented before gas ones?

This post was edited by fizzpower on Nov 12 2011 12:50pm
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Quote (TheInferno @ Nov 12 2011 10:06am)
Thought i'd Bump this post with an interesting concept i've read about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cUC8tjoB_0


I approve of this.

Though, lol at how they pronounce cannabinoids.
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