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Quote (Jazz_Thing @ Fri, Jun 12 2009, 11:53am)
ORLY?

YNOT?


ask ant credible(sp?) sceintist.

or any intelligent person you cant disprove religion with science or vice versa(yet)
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ask ant credible(sp?) sceintist.

or any intelligent person you cant disprove religion with science or vice versa(yet)


Why not ask a priest if the Universe was created by God?
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Why not ask a priest if the Universe was created by God?


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My thoughts exactly.
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Just stirring the cauldron, the pot called the kettle black. Read post 181.
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Jun 16 2009 07:48pm
lol they found a monkey fossil congrats for sicence i guess gods not real because monkey's exist.
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Just stirring the cauldron, the pot called the kettle black. Read post 181.


Uh.

lol

Just... just lol. :(
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lol they found a monkey fossil congrats for sicence i guess gods not real because monkey's exist.


Stupid, just plain stupid. I never said that. I said this is a defeat for major religions who believe that Humans were divinely inspired/created.

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Uh. 

lol

Just...  just lol.  :(


LOL just loled so loling lol causes loled to lol about lol.

This post was edited by Jazz_Thing on Jun 17 2009 06:29am
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You know I believe that what is beyond science is inherently undiscovered, that doesn't mean its necessarily God.

I've just been convinced that Science has achieved so much progress in actually discovering the Universe that even, a viable notion of God falls into a very stale and stagnant logical scheme, where it is extremely impersonal, distanced and seemingly "timeless".

It almost feels as if God itself is this distanced creator, and if Science can readily describe the phenomena with more accurate evidence than religion, then Science has prevailed.

I'm very happy with the progress of this thread actually, and I believe that Science has triumphed over once again another religious assumption about the origins of Man (creation).


You also cannot rule out the notion of a higher being just based on science. Theres A LOT we don't know yet, and the deeper we dig into the mechanics of nature -- the more confusing it becomes. Let me give you an example, science -- mathematically mostly has come up with the theory of virtual particles; what are they? Particles that appear and disappear completely arbitrarily, for no reason at all -- sounds just as crazy as magic and God, but it has mathematically explained so many phenomena that one cannot ignore it.

See, my point isn't to prove religion -- its just to say that we don't know enough to rule it OUT yet. Yes okay this Earth wasn't created in 7 days etc... but you cannot conclusively say we are moving away from the notion of a creator -- in my opinion, much of quantum mechanics brings us back to it.
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You also cannot rule out the notion of a higher being just based on science. Theres A LOT we don't know yet, and the deeper we dig into the mechanics of nature -- the more confusing it becomes. Let me give you an example, science -- mathematically mostly has come up with the theory of virtual particles; what are they? Particles that appear and disappear completely arbitrarily, for no reason at all -- sounds just as crazy as magic and God, but it has mathematically explained so many phenomena that one cannot ignore it.

See, my point isn't to prove religion -- its just to say that we don't know enough to rule it OUT yet. Yes okay this Earth wasn't created in 7 days etc... but you cannot conclusively say we are moving away from the notion of a creator -- in my opinion, much of quantum mechanics brings us back to it.


"The view that the existence of God cannot be proved or disproved by philosophy has not stopped developments in modern theology. Theologians are attempting to balance the anthropocentric view of God presented by philosophers since the Enlightenment with the need to provide a spiritual path and a guide to an ethical and meaningful way of life."

Sure, I suppose philosophy has a tough time proving anything. You seem to be mixing philosophy and science in your conclusions.

One of Science's goal's is to prove things, and I have faith that Science can do so to a "higher being" wager.

Great website:

http://www.philosopher.org.uk/
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