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Aug 19 2011 09:49am
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There is at least one guy that I know of that was cured of AIDS by a UK research group. I forget the exact details, but there are humans that have a natural resistance to HIV (if infected with HIV, it NEVER becomes AIDS) and I think they did some sort of stem cell swap while trying to treat a man's diabetes and accidentally cured his AIDS instead.

But that's not how research works. Very rich people are already affected by AIDS and are pouring money into research, and there still is not a cure.


Clearly, what you mean is that they accidentally gave him baking soda instead of the stem cells, and the pH of his stomach went to 14, instantly killing every HIV virus in his body while also removing facial wrinkles and enlarging his penis by a respectable 2 inches.
Stem cells are a hoax. All you need is a 3L jug of laundry bleach and a skill for chugging like a true partier.
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Aug 19 2011 01:37pm
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Clearly, what you mean is that they accidentally gave him baking soda instead of the stem cells, and the pH of his stomach went to 14, instantly killing every HIV virus in his body while also removing facial wrinkles and enlarging his penis by a respectable 2 inches.
Stem cells are a hoax. All you need is a 3L jug of laundry bleach and a skill for chugging like a true partier.

Maybe stem cells are alkaline, and you just need to eat them. The all-placenta diet.
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Aug 19 2011 02:06pm
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True, but that is part of a regular diet and not a strictly alkaline one. I'm not saying we should stop eating everything that is found in an alkaline diet altogether, that's be as stupid as saying that eating strictly things found in them cures cancer.
By to totality of the posts you've made in this thread, am I to understand that you believe that cancer cannot generally be prevented by way of diet, and that it can under no circumstance be cured by way of diet? Please disregard exceptions to the rule, as these exist in nearly every aspect of life.

I just want to be clear on this before I continue. Thanks.






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There is at least one guy that I know of that was cured of AIDS by a UK research group. I forget the exact details, but there are humans that have a natural resistance to HIV (if infected with HIV, it NEVER becomes AIDS) and I think they did some sort of stem cell swap while trying to treat a man's diabetes and accidentally cured his AIDS instead.

But that's not how research works. Very rich people are already affected by AIDS and are pouring money into research, and there still is not a cure.
Although risky (30% of patients die from the procedure) there is in fact a cure for aids. People of a rare genetically mutated blood type are naturally immune to HIV. HIV+ people who receive Bone marrow transplants from these people begin to produce blood of the same type, resulting in them becoming imune to the virus as well. This has been successfully achieved in Germany.

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By to totality of the posts you've made in this thread, am I to understand that you believe that cancer cannot generally be prevented by way of diet, and that it can under no circumstance be cured by way of diet? Please disregard exceptions to the rule, as these exist in nearly every aspect of life.

I just want to be clear on this before I continue. Thanks.

I've been arguing that the alkaline diet that DieTryin' is arguing for is unproven. I know diet affects immunity and obviously anti-oxidants make cancer less likely, but as far as I'm aware there's never been a proven case where a change in diet alone is the sole cause of someone going into remission after having cancer. Do you know of any?

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Although risky (30% of patients die from the procedure) there is in fact a cure for aids. People of a rare genetically mutated blood type are naturally immune to HIV. HIV+ people who receive Bone marrow transplants from these people begin to produce blood of the same type, resulting in them becoming imune to the virus as well. This has been successfully achieved in Germany.

Yeah, that's the procedure I was talking about. They've described it as a "functional cure" but I wasn't aware that they were actually using bone marrow transplants as an attempted cure. With that first guy in Germany it was an accident that they cured his AIDS, since they were actually attempting to treat his Leukemia.
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Aug 19 2011 03:33pm
this is a very interesting thread, will continue reading later

can i just say this to dietryin.... life without steak & alcohol is not worth living imo
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Aug 19 2011 03:48pm
Quote (bentherdonethat @ Aug 19 2011 01:58pm)
I've been arguing that the alkaline diet that DieTryin' is arguing for is unproven. I know diet affects immunity and obviously anti-oxidants make cancer less likely, but as far as I'm aware there's never been a proven case where a change in diet alone is the sole cause of someone going into remission after having cancer. Do you know of any?


Yeah, that's the procedure I was talking about. They've described it as a "functional cure" but I wasn't aware that they were actually using bone marrow transplants as an attempted cure. With that first guy in Germany it was an accident that they cured his AIDS, since they were actually attempting to treat his Leukemia.

That's because diet doesn't make you go into remission, drugs do. Diet fixes the underlying cause so there is no need for remission when you are cancer free.


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this is a very interesting thread, will continue reading later

can i just say this to dietryin.... life without steak & alcohol is not worth living imo

Well steak & alcohol are rotting your body from the inside out, it may not seem worth it to you now, but what about after 10-30 years of living that lifestyle and you get a chronic illness such as cancer or disease, or worse yet suffer something that takes your life instantly and then not given a second chance? Would it be worth it then? Also, what about the hundreds of thousands of people who are sick & or dying right now? I'm sure they would give up such things to live life.

Steak & alcohol are a thrill ride to misery.

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Aug 19 2011 06:46pm
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Clearly, what you mean is that they accidentally gave him baking soda instead of the stem cells, and the pH of his stomach went to 14, instantly killing every HIV virus in his body while also removing facial wrinkles and enlarging his penis by a respectable 2 inches.
Stem cells are a hoax. All you need is a 3L jug of laundry bleach and a skill for chugging like a true partier.


this made me lul hard :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

funniest shit i heard/read all day.
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Aug 19 2011 07:26pm
We just have to program viruses to act like cancer to cancer cells.

They're doing it in very small fashion now. They'll get it eventually. Decades and decades away though, if not century +
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Aug 20 2011 10:15am
Quote (DieTryin' @ Aug 20 2011 04:48am)
Well steak & alcohol are rotting your body from the inside out, it may not seem worth it to you now, but what about after 10-30 years of living that lifestyle and you get a chronic illness such as cancer or disease, or worse yet suffer something that takes your life instantly and then not given a second chance? Would it be worth it then? Also, what about the hundreds of thousands of people who are sick & or dying right now? I'm sure they would give up such things to live life.

Steak & alcohol are a thrill ride to misery.


I've been living this lifestyle for 30+ years already and enjoyed every moment of it. I can accept that steak & alcohol may be rotting my body from the inside out, but they taste so damn good, and I don't expect to live forever.
I exercise regularly and have never been hospitalized or had any surgery. The real misery imo is going through life not enjoying the wonderful pleasures of steak & alcohol.

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I've been living this lifestyle for 30+ years already and enjoyed every moment of it. I can accept that steak & alcohol may be rotting my body from the inside out, but they taste so damn good, and I don't expect to live forever.
I exercise regularly and have never been hospitalized or had any surgery. The real misery imo is going through life not enjoying the wonderful pleasures of steak & alcohol.

Well not everyone is born with digestion and elimination organs strong enough to handle such foods, so they get sick earlier then most. I used to enjoy them myself for a while, but now that I've detoxed and alkalized my body I no longer crave them, I now crave things like avocados and tomatoes, I mean an 8oz glass of raw juiced broccoli taste like chocolate to me.

It may seem like misery to live without them, but It's only because they have a grip on you, and once you're free from it, well, It's a freedom that can really only be described through experience. I know many people are living life just fine the way they are, yourself for example, but what about the people who are sick and dying?
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