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May 24 2017 10:41pm
Quote (card_sultan @ May 24 2017 10:37pm)
Explain how you can fit 6+ statements in one sentence with questions, comments and opinions intermingled and still think your post made any grammatical sense at all?

I need to break apart your sentence because it has such bad writing skills:

How can you say gravity doesn't exist in one sentence // it doesn't

then question someone on the electromagnetic field on our planet // its not a planet, its a plane
and the range of gravity in the next? // cause i want to see what he knows and doesn't

For one, the range of gravity is known, at least loosely. // loosley? I thought you claimed to know everything? Is your belief in Heliocentrism :loosely based on something you heard while you were daydreaming in school?

For two, electromagnetism and gravity are closely related // Closely related - is like like when you marry a cousin?

in technical and mathematical terms //is that like not understanding the difference between 2d side views from 3d optical views because their both perspective and any meaning beyond your simple one word definition understanding is unreasonable?

so I'm really intrigued how you plan to explain the electromagnetic field of our planet
How can you say gravity doesn't exist in one sentence then question someone on the electromagnetic field on our planet and the range of gravity in the next?
https://aplanetruth.info/2016/02/25/electromagnetic-flat-earth/

and how your flat earth theory explains it better than our current theory //cause the ball earth is clearly nothing but BS and until i find a better one ill go with this one

which you clearly know zero about. // Actually i believed all the same crap you did for more years than you been thinking and to believe FE/Geocentricity you need a very solid understanding of Heliocentricity so when i question something its a rhetoric question to make you see the lies.



I'll readily admit my grammar is poor at times because I'm posting from my phone 100% of the time but it is quite funny you criticize my grammar then type those sentences. :)

Gravity and electromagnetism are no near distant cousins as you can see below.
https://postimg.org/image/909ijkbov/[/url]

I quite clearly understand 2d vs 3d geometry and I think everyone gets what your trying to show (we don't need to see the photos another 30 times). What you don't seem to understand is that regardless of what we visually perceive because of our relative position it doesn't change the math.
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Gravity and electromagnetism are no near distant cousins as you can see below.


yes, one exist the other is just fantasy.

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What you don't seem to understand is that regardless of what we visually perceive because of our relative position it doesn't change the math.


your position wouldnt change, your optics would, and so would the angles



ill keep posting this picture till you understand it, it'll probably take 6 -12 times for you to look at it and understand

im not trying to be mean, but you clearly dont understand at this point

The ceiling in that bottom photo is not going down

The floor is not going up

That 3 d optical perspective.

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yes, one exist the other is just fantasy.



your position wouldnt change, your optics would, and so would the angles

http://i.imgur.com/wS1HUai.png

ill keep posting this picture till you understand it, it'll probably take 6 -12 times for you to look at it and understand

im not trying to be mean, but you clearly dont understand at this point

The ceiling in that bottom photo is not going down

The floor is not going up

That 3 d optical perspective.


Why do you continue to dodge any valid proofs then you just contrive proven mathematics as fantasy. How can you justify electromagnetism and deny gravity in the same sentence when they are both measurable forces dependent upon each other. Are you seriously that dense?

You can show me that photo a million more times and I don't care whether we look from the eyes of an ant, midget, child, adult, or giant it doesn't change what the goddamn math will be and the fact that you think otherwise is mind boggling.
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Why do you continue to dodge any valid proofs then you just contrive proven mathematics as fantasy. How can you justify electromagnetism and deny gravity in the same sentence when they are both measurable forces dependent upon each other. Are you seriously that dense?

You can show me that photo a million more times and I don't care whether we look from the eyes of an ant, midget, child, adult, or giant it doesn't change what the goddamn math will be and the fact that you think otherwise is mind boggling.


Why do you continue to dodge the fact you dont know the difference between 2d and 3d? Math is only proof of your understanding and if your understanding is wrong, your theories are wrong. EM is not dependant on gravity, gravity is just a misconception. Are you purposely pretending to have DOWN syndrome, If gravity makes the air around the equator spins with the Earth at 1000 mph but the air at the poles spin at 1 mph, is gravity 1000x stronger at the equator?
If sound only travels at 767 mph and the earth spins at 1000 mph how can you talk to someone standing west of you?

Show me the math on that? Stop dodging - and answer these questions:

WHat is your explanation to why accelerometers can show the earth being flat and level?

Why do you not know the difference between 2d side view reality and 3d optical perspective?

If the Big Bang really happened which came first - the gravity to create mass or the mass to create gravity?

What's holding the Universe up?

What is the range for gravity?

Why does magnetic declination vary so greatly at the south "pole" - so much so that you might need to do a complete 180 degrees in order to be facing the direction your compass says?

Why do all compasses point north - do they point right though the earth?

Here's a picture to challenge your mind, ok.



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You really have some issues with reading and critical thinking but I'll bite. Here's some answers, but I'm sure you'll find a way to dodge your way out of these as always.

If gravity makes the air around the equator spins with the Earth at 1000 mph but the air at the poles spin at 1 mph, is gravity 1000x stronger at the equator?
Well considering we do know gravity effects of gravity vary based on where you are on our earth I do know gravity varies at the equator as compared to the poles but not the the degree you mention nor for the silly reasoning.

If sound only travels at 767 mph and the earth spins at 1000 mph how can you talk to someone standing west of you?
This has got to be the dumbest question I have ever been asked in my life, the direction they stand doesn't have any impact on this at all. Is this your proof for why the earth does not spin? Everyone on this earth is living with the same perspective, thus if we are on a ball spinning 1000 miles per hour, we all perceive that, I don't know what more you need here.

Show me the math on that? Stop dodging - and answer these questions:

WHat is your explanation to why accelerometers can show the earth being flat and level?
What kind of proof is this? I'm not going to trust an iPhone as an accurate scientific test. You know what else my iPhone fucks up before and after a flight, the time.

Why do you not know the difference between 2d side view reality and 3d optical perspective?
Very clearly do, it is you whom struggles to comprehend the difference visual relativity and mathematical reality.

If the Big Bang really happened which came first - the gravity to create mass or the mass to create gravity?
Never even mentioned the big bang, no relevance here, we are discussing your opinion on flat earth here.

What's holding the Universe up?
Never mentioned the remainder of the universe, no relevance here, we are discussing your opinion on flat earth here.

What is the range for gravity?
I'm not going to hone on on a numerical range because that is not yet known and I'm sure it will change with time but that is of no consequence here as you are claiming it doesn't exist. Gravity has been shown to be a weak force within our universe meaning it is not strong enough to effect atoms on a sub-atomic particle level but it is a strong enough force to move massive objects in space (IE planets).

Why does magnetic declination vary so greatly at the south "pole" - so much so that you might need to do a complete 180 degrees in order to be facing the direction your compass says?
WHAT? See below, should explain this very clearly.

Why do all compasses point north - do they point right though the earth?
A compass points north because it was designed to genius. A compass is a magnetized piece of metal which moves is designed to move freely as to be unobstructed to the magnetized piece of metal is affected by the electromagnetic field on our earth. The north pole attracts the "northern pole" pole of a magnet so a compass was designed this was to help navigators.

Now go educate yourself and stop posting nonsense until your ready to actually have an intelligent conversation.
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That card guy has autism for sure
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The 3-D Experience can be explained by the 2d drawing perfectly, as any 3d spacial system is easily broken down into multiple 2d systems.
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It doesn't just have to be from NASA, though NASA has high Earth orbit satellite photos that don't have to be stitched together like the composites they compile from low Earth orbit. There are innumerable other sources for Earth curvature photography, and some very good pictures of the whole side as seen from high Earth orbit from a Russian weather satellite. //Computer Generated Images, learn to tell the difference between a photo and a painting

That is incontrovertible, and you dodge the fuck out of it. //How is knowing they are completely fake "dodging the fuck out of it", oh i forget - your a fanboy of circle-jerk hypocritical logic


Foucault's pendulum proving the Earth's rotation. // why do you need to start the pendulum swinging - why does it stop - does it also proves the Earth is not spinning too or that the earth has stopped spinning??

Navigation-grade gyroscopes also prove rotation. // gyros prove the earth doesn't spin while also showing then can detect procession


Satellites being in orbit// are complete bs - Tropospheric scatter and antennas, float em on ballon - get everyone to believe it - profit!

Seasons are incontrovertible // Sun rotating between tropic of cancer and tropic of capricorn explains season

I'd really love to hear you explain how there can be midnight sun at antarctic research stations operated by 31 different nations, // are you talking about the one film with all the jump cuts in it - you believe that video

No that i've clearly answered all your questions you owe me an explanation as to why your a compete lying pos and need to dodge answering anything i ask

WHat is your explanation to why accelerometers can show the earth being flat and level?

Why do you not know the difference between 2d side view reality and 3d optical perspective?

If the Big Bang really happened which came first - the gravity to create mass or the mass to create gravity?

What's holding the Universe up?

What is the range for gravity?

Why does magnetic declination vary so greatly at the south pole - so much so that that you might need to do a complete 180 degrees in order to be facing the direction your compass says?

Why do all compasses point north - do they point right though the earth?

Have you personally been to space and confirmed anything or did you just hear about space one night when you stayed at a Holiday Inn?

I know you won't answer these cause you're a liar and dodger who can't even show his 2 d side view picture because it would expose how he just copies ideas off of metabunk

Yeah the only thing incontrovertible here is that you're a sack of ----- who loves to worship his state religion


Prove they're computer generated. Oh wait, that's right, you have absolutely NO proof, just a cockamamie unfalsifiable excuse pulled out of your ass. They are legit photos until you do and remain incontrovertible.

Why do you need to "start" the pendulum? Because objects at rest tend to stay at rest. It stops eventually due to friction. So no, it never proves a flat Earth. It's one of those MANY physics things that fly over your head.

Poor quality gyros and poor experiments lend credence to a flat Earth. People who know better have smashed your shit experiment. The fact that you utterly failed to address the fact that high quality gyros detect curvature has not gone unnoticed. High quality gyros are incontrovertible.

You can't prove that any satellites are held aloft by balloon. You also can't explain their great speed, visible to the naked eye at night. The only thing that is BS is your excuse. Satellites are incontrovertible.

The sun vacillating between the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn can't possibly explain the seasons. The sun shines 24 hours a day in Antarctica in the southern summer, yet it isn't possible to illuminate ANY part of Antarctica with the excuses you've offered. You can't even explain the sun's supposed motions without making up bullshit terminology that has no foundation in scientific fact. Seasons are incontrovertible.

No, I'm not talking about... whatever video you think it is, because unlike you, I don't live on YouTube learning from idiots. Instead, you can go to live feed webcams of research stations, like those noted here: http://www.antarctica.gov.au/webcams Of course, Antarctica is heading into their winter, so don't expect midnight sun any time soon.

So no, you haven't clearly answered a single question. You've offered long-since destroyed excuses. You haven't given any indication whether we're resolved on question two before I move onto three.
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Prove they're computer generated. Oh wait, that's right, you have absolutely NO proof, just a cockamamie unfalsifiable excuse pulled out of your ass. They are legit photos until you do and remain incontrovertible. //haha you cant tell the difference between CGI and real - what a visual loser!
Why do you need to "start" the pendulum? Because objects at rest tend to stay at rest. It stops eventually due to friction. So no, it never proves a flat Earth. It's one of those MANY physics things that fly over your head. //correct, an object at rest stay at rest - just like the earth - obviously your assessment is wrong as usual

Poor quality gyros and poor experiments lend credence to a flat Earth. People who know better have smashed your shit experiment. The fact that you utterly failed to address the fact that high quality gyros detect curvature has not gone unnoticed. //He showed his gyro being 100% able to detect procession with a force much less than the entire Earth spinning, your excuse is just a result of your poor observation skills and getting all your info from Metabunk which has been shown to be a liar just like yourself Gyros proving the earth flat are incontrovertible

You can't prove that any satellites are held aloft by balloon. You also can't explain their great speed, visible to the naked eye at night. The only thing that is BS is your excuse. //Well first all all your cant even see a spy plane at 100,000 feet, the idea you can see something 12 x higher, 6 x smaller and going 17x faster -at nightshows you ridiculous your arguments are. And if every "satellite" can be traced back to a launch at a balloon facility , while using troposcatter and antennas - + you never see any satellites from the ISS feed and supposedly there millions of stuff , but you claim u see them from earth - what a joke liar you are :rofl:
The sun vacillating between the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn can't possibly explain the seasons. The sun shines 24 hours a day in Antarctica in the southern summer, yet it isn't possible to illuminate ANY part of Antarctica with the excuses you've offered. You can't even explain the sun's supposed motions without making up bullshit terminology that has no foundation in scientific fact. //The sun isn't above the sky for 24 hours a day in antarctica and actual camera footage proves that and the sun "vacillating" between the tropic rings is incontrovertible reason to cause the seasons.

No, I'm not talking about... whatever video you think it is, because unlike you, I don't live on YouTube learning from idiots. Instead, you can go to live feed webcams of research stations, like those noted here: http://www.antarctica.gov.au/webcams Of course, Antarctica is heading into their winter, so don't expect midnight sun any time soon.

So no, you haven't clearly answered a single question. You've offered long-since destroyed excuses. You haven't given any indication whether we're resolved on question two before I move onto three.

//unlike you who get all his info from Metabunk, i've been to those stations and viewed their camera footage - none show a 24 hour sun. Incontrovertible proof[/COLOR]


For the 30th time you've dodged every one of my question and I proved your a liar when you claimed your picture wasn't 2d and then you posted your 2d picture. You are intellectually dishonest and clearly not fit for this discussion. Stop dodging or stop trolling, your only digging yourself into a deeper hole.



WHat is your explanation to why accelerometers can show the earth being flat and level?

Why do you not know the difference between 2d side view reality and 3d optical perspective?

If the Big Bang really happened which came first - the gravity to create mass or the mass to create gravity?

What's holding the Universe up?

What is the range for gravity?

Why does magnetic declination vary so greatly at the south pole - so much so that that you might need to do a complete 180 degrees in order to be facing the direction your compass says?

Why do all compasses point north - do they point right though the earth?

Have you personally been to space and confirmed anything or did you just hear about space one night when you stayed at a Holiday Inn?

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haha you cant tell the difference between CGI and real - what a visual loser!


Haha, you can't prove anything. What a fucking loser.

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//correct, an object at rest stay at rest - just like the earth - obviously your assessment is wrong as usual


No, moron. If the Earth were at rest, Foucault's pendulum COULDN'T rotate. And yet, it DOES!

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//He showed his gyro being 100% able to detect procession with a force much less than the entire Earth spinning, your excuse is just a result of your poor observation skills and getting all your info from Metabunk which has been shown to be a liar just like yourself Gyros proving the earth flat are incontrovertible


Look at you, STILL dodging that superior equipment has no problem detecting rotation, and instead doubling down, tripling down, and quadrupling down on a shit video that is undeniably wrong.

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//Well first all all your cant even see a spy plane at 100,000 feet, the idea you can see something 12 x higher, 6 x smaller and going 17x faster -at nightshows you ridiculous your arguments are. And if every "satellite" can be traced back to a launch at a balloon facility , while using troposcatter and antennas - + you never see any satellites from the ISS feed and supposedly there millions of stuff , but you claim u see them from earth - what a joke liar you are :rofl:


Hey stupid, you can see the light reflecting off and/or projecting from the satellite just fine at night. As a matter of fact, night time is the easiest time of day to spot orbiting satellites. Trace every satellite launch to a "balloon facility." I'll wait. lol, more make believe scientific terms from you.

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The sun isn't above the sky for 24 hours a day in antarctica and actual camera footage proves that and the sun "vacillating" between the tropic rings is incontrovertible reason to cause the seasons.


The sun is visible in many parts of Antarctica 24 hours a day during the southern summer, and if the sun can't be seen from a 10,000 miles away like you try to pretend, then it's impossible on the edge of a 24,000 mile diameter disc illuminated by your fairy tale pretend sun to be illuminated for 24 hours. Any part of the edge at all. Ever.

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unlike you who get all his info from Metabunk, i've been to those stations and viewed their camera footage - none show a 24 hour sun. Incontrovertible proof


You've been to Antarctica? Bullshit on top of a mountain of bullshit. You're a fucking lying sack of shit is what you are.
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