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May 22 2009 03:35pm
Quote (Jazz_Thing @ Fri, 22 May 2009, 14:32)
If religion was created by man, and man was created by a common ancestor, what is the significance of religion?


If your first premise there could ever be proven in any way ever, then the rest of your question would be worth answering. :( Since it never can, it's sort of invalid.

If elephants are bananas, and bananas are delicious, then how many pancakes does it take to fill up a doghouse? :(
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Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Fri, May 22 2009, 09:35pm)
If your first premise there could ever be proven in any way ever, then the rest of your question would be worth answering.  :(  Since it never can, it's sort of invalid. 

If elephants are bananas, and bananas are delicious, then how many pancakes does it take to fill up a doghouse?  :(


Try again.

Look at the poll in PaRD.
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Quote (WhirlingDervish @ Fri, May 22 2009, 03:52pm)
I would have to dissect that snake or get a good X-ray of it to determine if it confirms or contradicts that article. I have heard it from lecturers, that the embryo diagram most used in evolution text was fabricated. If I were going to try to confirm anything I would start there.

Yes the embryo drawings were fabricated over a hundred years ago and the truth was revealed fairly quickly. Luckily, embryo comparisons aren't used as proof for evolution. Nice red herring.

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Replace that with hypothesis and it at least could be. Using the word conclusion, as you did here, you could easily swap creation science for evolution. Both parties seem a little overzealous about what they believe and seem blinded at times by findings that seem contrary to what they wish to prove.


In the end, I still do not see what this has to do with the God question, :mellow:

Wrong. Creationists are constantly trying to say evolution is as much of a religion as creationism and that just isn't true. Evolution relies on supporting evidence, and it has nothing to do with being blinded by findings contrary. There exist no valid contrary findings. I think most scientists would happily accept a complete invalidation of evolution, because thats how science works. Hypothesis are created from available evidence, and reworked or thrown out entirely when new evidence arises.
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May 22 2009 03:39pm
Quote (Jazz_Thing @ Fri, 22 May 2009, 14:36)
Try again.

Look at the poll in PaRD.


Oh shit, 7 out of 13 retards on an internet message board think that Religion was man made, never mind, I didn't realize you had such overwhelming evidence.

Man, you are so fucking stupid. :(
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Oh shit, 7 out of 13 retards on an internet message board think that Religion was man made, never mind, I didn't realize you had such overwhelming evidence.

Man, you are so fucking stupid.  :(


Its a start, at least. Can you be more pessimistic?
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Oh shit, 7 out of 13 retards on an internet message board think that Religion was man made, never mind, I didn't realize you had such overwhelming evidence.

Man, you are so fucking stupid.  :(


I think this has devolved into a semantics argument.

Religion is always man-made. Call it divine inspiration, but it was created by humans.

God may or may not be man-made depending on his existence or not, so we'll default to not man-made.

Science cannot disprove God. Nor can it disprove some forms of religion.
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Quote (Jazz_Thing @ Fri, 22 May 2009, 14:41)
Its a start, at least. Can you be more pessimistic?


LOLOLOL

Yes, nothing could be more of a start than a poll in PaRD. lolololololol

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Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Fri, May 22 2009, 09:50pm)
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Yes, nothing could be more of a start than a poll in PaRD.  lolololololol

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Look where you are arguing. Irony?

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May 22 2009 04:29pm
Quote (Sioux @ Fri, May 22 2009, 04:37pm)
Yes the embryo drawings were fabricated over a hundred years ago and the truth was revealed fairly quickly. Luckily, embryo comparisons aren't used as proof for evolution. Nice red herring.


Wrong. Creationists are constantly trying to say evolution is as much of a religion as creationism and that just isn't true. Evolution relies on supporting evidence, and it has nothing to do with being blinded by findings contrary. There exist no valid contrary findings. I think most scientists would happily accept a complete invalidation of evolution, because thats how science works. Hypothesis are created from available evidence, and reworked or thrown out entirely when new evidence arises.


That's part of the proof presented in biology classes at least up to ten years ago. The majority of the professors at the time chastised students for not believing in the "picture". I'm not sure if I even like herring. :mellow:

Creation and evolution science both seem about one step removed from a cult to me. You don't have to try to prove either is wrong to me.
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Quote (WhirlingDervish @ Fri, May 22 2009, 11:29pm)
You don't have to try to prove either is wrong to me.


That's because you're a moron.
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