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May 21 2017 05:43pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ May 21 2017 12:54pm)
Why can't I see it when it's over Asia, and why does it appear to set?


Because that how perspective works - take a pair of railroad tracks, the lines appear to converge because of perspective. Now flip that picture upside down, this is how perspective works on a that plane - as objects get further away from you, they appear to be optically setting past the horizon of the plane we live on.

Follow an Airplane in the sky - its just following a straight line - its not curving around you.

This is a great video for understanding how perspective really works, its only 8 minutes so i hope you watch it with an open mind.


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Because that how perspective works - take a pair of railroad tracks, the lines appear to converge because of perspective. Now flip that picture upside down, this is how perspective works on a that plane - as objects get further away from you, they appear to be optically setting past the horizon of the plane we live on.

Follow an Airplane in the sky - its just following a straight line - its not curving around you.

This is a great video for understanding how perspective really works, its only 8 minutes so i hope you watch it with an open mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Gx1vD1CRE


but your sick-disease-aids document doesnt works because following this non-sense it would means the size of sun or moon is changing substantially during the say/night, that isnt the case in our terrible spheric earth world conspiracy.





ByeBye Flat Earth !

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but your sick-disease-aids document doesnt works because following this non-sense it would means the size of sun or moon is changing substantially during the say/night, that isnt the case in our terrible spheric earth world conspiracy.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLhG9Di5Dto

ByeBye Flat Earth !


Dude, this is just one of the classic misunderstanding from globers whose understanding is limited to a 2 d side drawings to understand actual 3 d perspective. I guarantee the guy who made this video - is thinking in 2 d side view, its pretty sad.

My video actually explains why this is just wrong, did you even watch it? Are you just trolling to intentionally confuse people - why are you doing that?
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May 21 2017 06:09pm
Quote (card_sultan @ May 21 2017 05:43pm)
Because that how perspective works - take a pair of railroad tracks, the lines appear to converge because of perspective. Now flip that picture upside down, this is how perspective works on a that plane - as objects get further away from you, they appear to be optically setting past the horizon of the plane we live on.

Follow an Airplane in the sky - its just following a straight line - its not curving around you.

This is a great video for understanding how perspective really works, its only 8 minutes so i hope you watch it with an open mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Gx1vD1CRE


The sun would get closer and closer to the horizon the further away it gets but it won't go below it since nothing is causing the light to curve.

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Dude, this is just one of the classic misunderstanding from globers whose understanding is limited to a 2 d side drawings to understand actual 3 d perspective. I guarantee the guy who made this video - is thinking in 2 d side view, its pretty sad.
My video actually explains why this is just wrong, did you even watch it? Are you just trolling to intentionally confuse people - why are you doing that?


Ofc i checked the video and it's flawed like a saturday night crackwhore; following your model:

1/size of moon/sun should varies alot

2/sunset should NOT going BELOW the horizon

.... You didnt answered, you dodged the FaCtS, infidel.

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May 21 2017 07:20pm
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The sun would get closer and closer to the horizon the further away it gets but it won't go below it since nothing is causing the light to curve.


Perspective can make anything happen, you just don't understand perspective. Sun goes below the horizon? Perspective. Eclipse? Perspective. Moonshine? Perspective. Tide comes in, tide goes out? Perspective. Magnets? Perspective.

If there's anything that doesn't make sense or can't be explained, just throw the word "perspective" at it until it goes away.
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The sun would get closer and closer to the horizon the further away it gets but it won't go below it since nothing is causing the light to curve.


please draw a picture to explain your beliefs, if its a 2 d side drawing , you 100% lose. We dont live in a 2 d world.

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Perspective can make anything happen, you just don't understand perspective. Sun goes below the horizon? Perspective. Eclipse? Perspective. Moonshine? Perspective. Tide comes in, tide goes out? Perspective. Magnets? Perspective.

If there's anything that doesn't make sense or can't be explained, just throw the word "perspective" at it until it goes away.


Now your just talking like an mad little kid, someone asked why the sun seems to go over the Horizon - its clearly just because of optical perspective - not a physical thing - tells me your still dont know the difference - probably because you've never learned it and are trying to convince people to be clueless like you.

Ignorance is bliss after all, and you sound quite blissful.

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Ofc i checked the video and it's flawed like a saturday night crackwhore; following your model:

1/size of moon/sun should varies alot

2/sunset should NOT going BELOW the horizon

.... You didnt answered, you dodged the FaCtS, infidel.


Video clearly explains why the sun does go past the horizon and appears to set

you just clearly dont understand it.

The size does not change much because angular size changes more - the closer you are to an objects plane of existence, if car travels away from you 0 it get drastically smaller very fast while an airplane travelling across the entire sky will not change its size and the suin is ever higher than an airplane,



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please draw a picture to explain your beliefs, if its a 2 d side drawing , you 100% lose. We dont live in a 2 d world.


He says linking youtube videos with 2d drawings. Guess you 100% lose then.

Tell me, how high up is the sun? If you tell me that I can easily calculate how far it would have to move before it becomes indistinguishable with the horizon.

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He says linking youtube videos with 2d drawings. Guess you 100% lose then.

Tell me, how high up is the sun? If you tell me that I can easily calculate how far it would have to move before it becomes indistinguishable with the horizon.


My video shows that thinking 2 d side view of perspective is completely wrong,

and your question shows that you dont understand the difference between optical perspective and actual reality.

The sun doesn't set in the FE model - it as always physically above the earth, it only appears to set because of your optical perspective.





Its like these railroad tracks - are they physical traveling up or just optically because of how perspective works?

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May 21 2017 08:13pm
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My video shows that thinking 2 d side view of perspective is completely wrong,

and your question shows that you dont understand the difference between optical perspective and actual reality.

The sun doesn't set in the FE model - it as always physically above the earth, it only appears to set because of your optical perspective.


http://www.drawinghowtodraw.com/drawing-lessons/things/perspective-drawing/20.1perspective.JPG


Its like these railroad track - are they physical traveling up or just optically because of how perspective works?


I understand how the sun would appear to set, but using the logic you've shown the sun would never go BELOW the horizon. We would never have a black night sky the way we observe if you were correct.

In addition the sun would never vanish from view if you were significantly higher than the plane of the flat earth, say on a mountain.

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