Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 8 2014 01:59am)
Yes, they were all human like, and that has all of nothing to do with the price of eggs in china. There are plenty of animals set to take our place as the most intelligent species should we die off, and even if all apes died off, and even if all monkeys died off. You just drew an arbitrary line saying "but, we diverged kind of recently!" instead of acknowledging you were wrong. Move them goal posts, move em on back.
We manipulate our environment to some extent, but we haven't terraformed the earth or an unhospitable planet. We've torn down some forests, dug some trenches, and increased the temperature of the earth by a few degrees, but we aren't going to transform the bottom of the ocean to an environment hospitable to humans and if the environment we choose to transform to our own benefit isn't adjascent to, or already rich with resources we can use there's not much survival going on. There's a huge portion of desert where humans don't and cannot live, same for the artic.
Billions of people probably shouldn't exist, a basic biology course will go over carrying capacity and population crashes. When the population goes over the carrying capacity the whole thing can collapse, so the number of humans alive today is also an irrelevant detail.
Really what this comes down to is I'm trying to explain integrals to somebody who doesn't know how to multiply, except change math to biology. Explanations are going straight over your head because you just don't know the facts. I'm not saying anything controvertial, I'm basically parroting what every single biology book will tell you, that there is no pinnacle of evolution.
"there is no pinnacle of evolution" I already agreed with you on this in a previous post near the beginning of this discussion.
That is not the core of my argument. I used "pinnacle" for lack of a better word.
My argument is that what humans do goes beyond evolution. It is consciously aware self adaptation through technology and environmental augmentation. Yet you won't concede this self-evident point.
It is almost as if you are blindly contrarian.