So... they called god "bald"? And this perfect being's ego is so fragile, that an "insult" (and I use the term rather loosely) that has absolutely no meaning to a non-physical entity with no concept of head hair overcame the intense love this being feels for us, the very love that Christians advertise till they are blue in the face, and this butt-hurt all-loving being sent bears to maul everyone in the vicinity....

I'm starting to think that Jesus was sent to earth to just kill, rape and pillage, like Terminator. Something must have malfunctioned, and he started blessing shit instead. With a history of sending floods, plagues, and rabid bears, the last thing I would expect god to send is a saintly little man with a big beard.
Unless, of course, he was thinking long-term. Christianity has done more damage than any flood, so I guess that would make sense.

I suggest everyone (except bentheredonethat, as he's on the right path already) read "The God Delusion".

Why would I read this when I am a christian? lol

Well surely if you're so sure there is a god then you wouldn't be worried about reading something that says there isn't a god.

It's called being open-minded.... try it sometime

Being open-minded is fine, but choosing to spend hours of my life and eyeball power to scan/read text from a atheist doesn't suit me very well, you feel me brother?

I understand but it'd be very interesting to hear the counter arguments from a christian (or any believer) on the arguments made in the book.

Lol I am so humble man I cant express my opinions about faith unless my life depended on it man, nonetheless a forum full of trolls

You can't say you're open-minded while still refusing to read evidence that disagrees with your belief system. That's not how open-mindedness works.


1 Peter 3
15: But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect
16: keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.

In other words, if someone asks you should be able to provide an answer for why you believe in Christ. The "reason for the hope that you have" is what you should be able to explain when asked. I'm not saying you should bother telling us, but you should at least have the answer for yourself just in case someone asks you face-to-face later on in life.

I for one is an atheist. and i had a very interesting conversation with a good christian girl in the pub like 8 months back now.
i said i did not belive in god and she thought for a while and said so your belife is in not beliving.

and i said somewhat like that, but i can not feel my belife, and from here on it kinda spirald out of control.

our way of seeing the world was so different.

there is one thing about religion and belife in a god that scares me, they are not open minded about their religion or belife, even if we could somehow prove that god did not exist at all, it would not change much.
but on the other hand if we could prove that he did exist most open minded atheist would start beliving in him.

and the concept of paradise is also scary, its a bit like "why make this world a better place when i come to the perfect place later on" it takes away responsibility of the world we live in, why care about anything here exept your own belife.
its so stagnant, so full of entropy.

i can not and will not belive in any religion that is splintered into many different groups of belivers, first of all than it all comes down to your own personal interpretation of the bible (or any other religious text) if you live according to it or not.
and remember this guys and girls in the old testament it was a death sin to work on sundays.

and last but not least if god created the whole world in seven days, why did he do 99.99999999% of the work day one, is he perhaps lazy? and how did he measure time since our day is dependant on the rotational spin of this ball of matter in space we call earth and it changes over time.

I can tell that you've never been in that situation personally then. (I don't have a sister but I've seen it happen on others) How would you feel if a whole bunch of idiot kids came up to you in groups every school day and said that they want to bang your sister? They say it as an insult and in a bullying kind of way. Don't you dare tell me that you wouldn't care because you would. There is just no possible way you would not care about your sister about something like that.



That is their judgement brought upon them. God punishes the wicked like he did with the flood and all of the many other killings he has done or ordered to be done in the Bible. All the people that God has killed each and every one of them were very wicked people whom were all plotting even more evil. Look at the story of Noah's Ark and the flood. The bible states that EVERY SINGLE PERSON was evil except Noah and his family.

God judges the wicked and the judgement for being wicked i.e. sin is death. Get that through your head. Why did God order the destruction of entire cities like Jericho just to allow the Jews to have a homeland in the Middle East? This is what the Bible says:

"It is not for your righteousness or for the uprightness of your heart that you are going to possess their land, but it is because of the wickedness of these nations that the LORD your God is driving them out before you, in order to confirm the oath which the LORD swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. (Deuteronomy 9:5)

Okay, how "wicked" could those people have been? How about killing their own sons and daughters by burning them in sacrifices to their gods:

"You shall not behave thus toward the LORD your God, for every abominable act which the LORD hates they have done for their gods; for they even burn their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods. (Deuteronomy 12:31)

Now, now you are probably thinking of all of the CHILDREN and BABIES that God also ordered the killing of entire populations including the children. First of all, the Bible indicates that all people are sinners, including babies, and worthy of judgement. However, the Bible also indicates that children are incapable of making moral choices, so that they are automatically rewarded with heaven. So, in having babies killed, God is actually doing them a favor, since, if they had grown up opposed to God, they would have gone to hell.

( http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/killergod.html )

There are many more examples of God killing entire populations and even the entire world with the flood because they were all wicked people who would shake their fist and say get lost to God. Everything God does is fully justified. It is not like he killed all those people for no reason at all.