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Dec 24 2010 04:33pm
Quote (AEtheric @ Dec 24 2010 03:22pm)
Here you go folks, Psycho says driving high is close to driving drunk and impairs your driving skills almost as bad as alcohol.


He's seen every truth commercial made, I think he knows what he's talkin about dood, shit.
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it still affects the same driving skills except it does not affect your perception of what you are doing like alcohol does. personal experience has shown me a high driver is about the same as a drunk driver with other people in the car.


Haven you ever smoked weed and drove? I've smoked weed and drove, and I've also had other friends drive while high. The times that my friends drove while they were high was practically every other time I hung out with them. I never ever got in a wreck with them. Try that with alcohol and tell your friends to drink before driving and we'll see how well things go.
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Dec 24 2010 04:37pm
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Haven you ever smoked weed and drove? I've smoked weed and drove, and I've also had other friends drive while high. The times that my friends drove while they were high was practically every other time I hung out with them. I never ever got in a wreck with them. Try that with alcohol and tell your friends to drink before driving and we'll see how well things go.


idiot

weed causes your eyes to swell shut and your hands to turn into fire. Obv u cant drive like that
There havent been any studies to confirm what im saying, but its a no brainer LOL
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Dec 24 2010 04:41pm
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Haven you ever smoked weed and drove? I've smoked weed and drove, and I've also had other friends drive while high. The times that my friends drove while they were high was practically every other time I hung out with them. I never ever got in a wreck with them. Try that with alcohol and tell your friends to drink before driving and we'll see how well things go.


i've drove and tried both and the only difference was i knew i was doing bad high. when i was drunk i honestly couldn't comprehend enough of what was going on to know what i was doing. weed was safer but only because i could tell i was doing bad so i pulled over as compared to drinking it never even crossed my mind i was doing bad.

i had someone pick me up when i was high and i made it home drunk and didn't do anything bad i remembered or anything. you can find people that drive drunk all the time and have never had a wreck but we all know that is greatly increases your risk for it.

for a heavy smoker it wouldn't have noticeable affects on driving cause of tolerance levels but for casual smokers being high without being able to grasp what you are doing and compensate its dangerous.
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Dec 24 2010 04:46pm
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i've drove and tried both and the only difference was i knew i was doing bad high. when i was drunk i honestly couldn't comprehend enough of what was going on to know what i was doing. weed was safer but only because i could tell i was doing bad so i pulled over as compared to drinking it never even crossed my mind i was doing bad.

i had someone pick me up when i was high and i made it home drunk and didn't do anything bad i remembered or anything. you can find people that drive drunk all the time and have never had a wreck but we all know that is greatly increases your risk for it.

for a heavy smoker it wouldn't have noticeable affects on driving cause of tolerance levels but for casual smokers being high without being able to grasp what you are doing and compensate its dangerous.


i pretty much agree with this. i wouldnt advocate using any substance and driving really.

but who is to say what i can or cant put in my body? after all it is MY body and not anyone elses.
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Dec 24 2010 04:51pm
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i pretty much agree with this. i wouldnt advocate using any substance and driving really.

but who is to say what i can or cant put in my body? after all it is MY body and not anyone elses.


i would be fine with it being legal if you could count on the marijuana community to be responsible with it. currently most users already break laws and risk their jobs/freedom by buying/growing/using marijuana so it doesn't show a lot of promise in that area.

being illegal its still not hard to get away with and i think the people trying to make it legal need to start at diminishing punishments not full blown legalization.
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Dec 24 2010 04:55pm
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i would be fine with it being legal if you could count on the marijuana community to be responsible with it. currently most users already break laws and risk their jobs/freedom by buying/growing/using marijuana so it doesn't show a lot of promise in that area.

being illegal its still not hard to get away with and i think the people trying to make it legal need to start at diminishing punishments not full blown legalization.


when a law is morally wrong i believe its the duty of the people to protest an unjust law any way possible including doing the opposite of the law except for hurting other people and such because that would be morally wrong.
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Dec 24 2010 05:00pm
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when a law is morally wrong i believe its the duty of the people to protest an unjust law any way possible including doing the opposite of the law except for hurting other people and such because that would be morally wrong.


it comes down to is the world fair? the answer is no and thats why minorities will always be denied things they want. making it legal is just too great a step for marijuana given the social status of it. trying to fight the law while breaking the law in the name of personal satisfaction will not sway voters to your side. weed for non medical purposes has no positive consequence for non-users so until they benefit from it being legal it will remain illegal.
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Dec 24 2010 05:38pm
Quote (Psycho- @ Dec 24 2010 11:00pm)
it comes down to is the world fair? the answer is no and thats why minorities will always be denied things they want. making it legal is just too great a step for marijuana given the social status of it. trying to fight the law while breaking the law in the name of personal satisfaction will not sway voters to your side. weed for non medical purposes has no positive consequence for non-users so until they benefit from it being legal it will remain illegal.


people smoke cigarettes for the nicotine high? people drink to get drunk? whats so different?

there are many reasons for cannabis being illegal. do some research on the early part of last century and you will find that they said all kinds of crazy things to make weed illegal. they said that the minorities (mexicans, blacks) used it the most and that when it was used black men would turn into wild lunatic savages and rape white women.

we know that to not be true. and the reason they said all that was because people high up the totem pole had lots of money in lumber and textiles. they made it illegal because they found that hemp can make so much more paper and textiles than anything already on the market.

the "majority" never made it illegal. the minority of rich investors made it illegal through propaganda on the stupid ignorant majority which had used cannabis for YEARS with no ill effects and they did it all through calling a common used plant MARIJUANA. people didnt know wtf marijuana was back then. hadnt ever heard of the word.

it was illegalized because of money interests, propaganda, and ignorance.
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Dec 24 2010 05:58pm
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people smoke cigarettes for the nicotine high? people drink to get drunk? whats so different?

there are many reasons for cannabis being illegal. do some research on the early part of last century and you will find that they said all kinds of crazy things to make weed illegal. they said that the minorities (mexicans, blacks) used it the most and that when it was used black men would turn into wild lunatic savages and rape white women.

we know that to not be true. and the reason they said all that was because people high up the totem pole had lots of money in lumber and textiles. they made it illegal because they found that hemp can make so much more paper and textiles than anything already on the market.

the "majority" never made it illegal. the minority of rich investors made it illegal through propaganda on the stupid ignorant majority which had used cannabis for YEARS with no ill effects and they did it all through calling a common used plant MARIJUANA. people didnt know wtf marijuana was back then. hadnt ever heard of the word.

it was illegalized because of money interests, propaganda, and ignorance.


there are many reasons why it shouldn't of been made illegal in the first place but they don't pertain to why in the modern world it should be legal. the things that are bad for us remain legal because they are used by many more people than marijuana. the health consequences aren't the issue because we all know cigs/alcohol/weed are all bad for us when abused. the issue is that the majority find it dangerous to society since unlike cigarettes and alcohol using the drug in moderation doesn't work out since its so easy to get high. there just really isn't much of a middle ground between high and sober so it is seen as dangerous for public use. people now tend to smoke where they won't get caught do to legal ramifications but if people were allowed to walk around getting high in public places it would undoubtedly lead to bad things. even now marijuana smokers break the law so why create another law that would be abused as well? marijuana users are not going to change their habits of smoking in excess the only thing that will change is where they get high and a its most definitely in no ones best interest for people to be getting high in public places because of the inability to control who all becomes exposed to the drug.

cigarettes are facing the same restrictions all over the country today because people are tired of dealing with smokers altogether because its bullshit to allow people who smoke harmful substances to expose others to it unwillingly.
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