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Quote (Santara @ Jul 24 2017 03:59am)
LMAO! A simple, frequently reproduced experiment is an "extraordinary claim." Sorry bub, but "it's a conspiracy" is the extraordinary claim. I'm not biting on "I require you... or..." That's just your construction of a convenient dodge. You said it's easy to prove a Foucault pendulum doesn't prove axial rotation, so prove it. I mean, not long ago, your pal tard_sultan was going all on about precession in a gyroscope, but suddenly, you want to ignore precession when it yields inconvenient truths?


Foucault Pendulum is hiding the fulcrum and until I see it, it's an obvious mechanical trick, pull back the curtain unless you're afraid it will expose your blatant lies. The only thing inconvenient about gyroscopes is that they don't show the procession of Earth. Please show proof that they do or it's just another one of your blatant lies you never provide proof for and just assume. Also explain why accelerometer that are sensitive enough to detect a 7 day rotation on a timer, do not detect any axial rotation. Also you can set level on them according to the space they re in, not level to your assumed gravity, so when they are rotated at all they detect a change. Completely un-power that and take it on a airplane for 6000 miles, it should show you are now on a different plane in space, but it doesn't. Your precious ball fantasy is falling fast, and your Space Balls and Rocket worship is obviously pretty gay.


Quote (Santara @ Jul 24 2017 03:59am)
I haven't shown? Stop lying. Here's a NON-COMPOSITE photo by a Russian weather satellite:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/18mozgxwgu2ibjpg.jpg

NASA doesn't need a MAN that high, just a satellite. DERP.


Obvious CGI is obvious, this graven image is queerer than a 3 dollar bill. I've seen pictures of Bigfoot that seem more realistic and Bigfoot is totally fake.

Quote (Santara @ Jul 24 2017 03:59am)
Holy fucking special pleading, Batman! Physics works for everybody, not just some people. Optical perspective IS physics. It is explained by physics. You don't get to make up unspecified rules that only YOU "understand" to explain the world. You can't even specify how your version of perspective works in the real world so that an experiment can be conducted to prove its veracity.


Optical perspective is explained by physics? Holy blatant lie, Lieman! Why do you continue to make up complete crap and never provide any proof! Oh that's right – you just completely make it up!

Quote (Santara @ Jul 24 2017 03:59am)
That proves that rail guns exist. Doesn't prove anything else though. As a matter of fact, I'm not even sure of what you THINK it proves either. My point still stands. Rail gun projectiles are subject to gravity like everything else.


Sorry but the curvature of Earth is not used in targeting, gravity is just a theory that's never been proven. Simple momentum explains why a projectile drops.

If the Earth is curved – how can Loran Radio waves signals be used to track a boats/airplanes for over 2000 miles and why is there no Loran radio signals south of the equator? Perhaps there is something they don't want you to figure out, but since pulling the wool over your eyes is not that hard, i'm sure you'll never figure it out.

Quote (Santara @ Jul 24 2017 03:59am)
Moving 1000 mph RELATIVE TO A FIXED POINT ABOVE THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH. Can you please try to keep up?

We are in a de facto closed environment, yes. Not a de jure closed environment, just a de facto one. Do you even know what de facto means?


Oh look at you, trying to sound so smart by using Latin legal jargon in a debate about the nature of reality when you obviously don't understand the terms. IN FACT, if relativity was a Law, and the Air was really spinning exactly with the Earth, Airplanes traveling north would need to account for the diminishing force of the air you claim is spinning to the east, but I supposed IN RIGHT you should be allowed to keep your delusions. The DE FACTO problem here is your DE JOUR misunderstandings of most things.

QUOTE=Santara,Jul 24 2017 03:59am]
All vacuums are NOT more powerful than gravity. Try using a suction (vacuum) pump to lift a column of water more than 33 feet. I'll wait. I mean, this is a very simple experiment you can even do at home. Get a 40 foot long transparent tube, put a plunger type device in the middle (like in a syringe), and see how high the water goes if you stick one end in a pool.[/QUOTE]

Nice fail – comparing a small vacuum pump to the infinite vacuum of space. Old man has experience with vacuum pumps – makes sense really.......

QUOTE=Santara,Jul 24 2017 03:59am]No and no. My personal attacks are to insult, not discredit. Don't pretend like you know what I'm thinking. You absolutely ad hom NASA. There's no way around this. You attack the source of the data rather than the data. Textbook ad hom.
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No you personally insult people who disagree with your indoctrination to discredit, your words and arguments are childish and denote how desperate you are to keep your delusions. My blasphemy of Nasa is in no way Ad Hominem because I address what they actually say like noting they say they can't get beyond low earth orbit, that all there images are composites, by pointing out that Neil Armstrong said that all there astronauts are parrots who can't fly and that truth has a protective layer, by showing footage of how the fakery is done. These are facts you deny while you just spew copy pasta textbook learning, you are totally dishonest and demand people accept the complete and blatant lies.


Quote (Santara @ Jul 24 2017 03:59am)
So no, I don't see a debunking in this. As a matter of fact, if you were to read the article, the criticisms are shown to be themselves debunked. Thanks for playing.
Your second link hasn't disproven Einstein, though they are certainly working on trying. https://phys.org/news/2016-11-theory-einstein-physics.html
Here's the author of that youtube: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Crothers

Stephen J. Crothers (born 1957) is a handyman/gardener and part-time amateur scientist who claims that black holes do not exist, and are neither predicted by nor compatible with General Relativity. His body of work consists primarily of articles that he posts at either viXra or his own personal website, thus steering clear of the peer review process. He has also been a frequent guest speaker at the annual EU conferences held by the Electric Universe crowd.

LOOOOOL


Oh look another ad hominem attack where you attack the person and not what he is saying. Classic bus driver anti-logic. If you can't address what he is saying, don't bother playing.
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Quote (ChivasRegal @ Jul 24 2017 10:21pm)

pull back the curtain unless you're afraid it will expose your blatant lies.
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Irony when you use falsified information to backup your claims
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Jul 24 2017 02:54pm
I don't even know how one would "set and un-power an accelerometer". I don't think our resident flat earthers actually understand what an accelerometer is.
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I don't even know how one would "set and un-power an accelerometer". I don't think our resident flat earthers actually understand what an accelerometer is.


They don't even understand their own model
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Jul 24 2017 06:39pm
Chivas is demon possessed... I will pray for him but I won't indulge the demons sense of humor... the power of christ compels you Chivas' Demon...
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Quote (kai_jph @ Jul 24 2017 10:31am)
Irony when you use falsified information to backup your claims


NASA falsifies images to back up their claims, nice false equivalency. Proof I ever changed any of the actual "information", cause i didn't.

Quote (russian @ Jul 24 2017 10:54am)
I don't even know how one would "set and un-power an accelerometer". I don't think our resident flat earthers actually understand what an accelerometer is.


Every smartphone has one - How do you un-power it - turn the phone off - duhhhhhhhhhhhh :wacko:

Quote (kai_jph @ Jul 24 2017 10:58am)
They don't even understand their own model


Proof - or just another blatant lie? Being truthful would be you admitting you know nothing of the Geocentric Model - But hey if you helps you sleep at night, keep lying to yourself.
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Jul 24 2017 09:21pm
So much irony i thought you might be Matt groening.
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Jul 24 2017 11:03pm
Quote (ChivasRegal @ Jul 24 2017 08:09pm)

Every smartphone has one - How do you un-power it - turn the phone off - duhhhhhhhhhhhh :wacko:


Yeah... you have no idea how an accelerometer works or what you can do with it.

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Quote (russian @ Jul 25 2017 02:33pm)
Yeah... you have no idea how an accelerometer works or what you can do with it.


Post your idea of how they work and I'll tell you if you're correct, dodge if you can't.
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