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Mar 10 2010 09:55am
Well a guy named Adolf found a way to stop our overgroving population...

But dunno if thats the right thing to do : - D

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Quote (Bear_Grylls @ Jan 1 2010 11:18pm)
ideas on how we can save our planet.
well thought out ideas, would be nice.
and things that not currently in use. unless its a practical improvement of something.

amount of fg will be based on how good of the idea.


save from what?
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Quote (Bear_Grylls @ Jan 2 2010 12:18am)
ideas on how we can save our planet.
well thought out ideas, would be nice.
and things that not currently in use. unless its a practical improvement of something.

amount of fg will be based on how good of the idea.


Eliminate the Human Race.

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Quote (mosca_mercer @ Mar 10 2010 09:33pm)
save from what?


From ourselfs
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From ourselfs


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Mar 14 2010 05:06pm
honda clarity
hydrogen + oxygen fueled cars...
in the same way petrol cars saved the horses and made room for their use recreationally years ago
i believe these mechanisms which use a singular componant running on the most abundant compound in the universe bear unlimited potential

also kill the cows and grow soya instead or somthing similar
cows are a cause of global warming...

and on an acre of land cows can only support 2 people sufficantly for a year
whereas soya can support 64...

these are two reasons amoung a list of hundreds.. if you want any more advice let me know

if you believe you dont have the power to change things your making the first step in the wrong direction
do your part if its all you can do its alot, maybe people will see what your doing and perhaps it will make a diffrence...


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save from what?


me
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Quote (Bear_Grylls @ Jan 2 2010 04:43am)
actually that is where i disagree.
i hate to disagree with that statement, but we are already overpopulated enough. 
war helps thin us out a little.


Before you can start looking for a solution to reduce population you need to check 1 point first:

1. Is overpopulation actually a problem?

It seems to be for the following reasons:

- global warming could be a possible threat and it could be increased by overpopulation.
Why is that? Calculate the amount of CO2 a single person causes during his life time. The worst CO2 priducer are cows. The reason why we have so many cows is because we have so many people eating them.

- highly populated areas bring with them higher rates of stress, depression, anxiety disorder, population, anonymity and a sense of being lost as compared to small communities that offer strong ties.

- lots of those problems are not found in more urban areas.

There are ofc more negative points of overpopulation but in general I can say that the negative points outweigh the positiv points. In order to prove that I would have to create positive points as well and start weighing them out which is all a comple and time consumin process so I have to stick with my intuition here which is most likely right concerning overpopulation.

2. Now as we have cleared the fact that overpopulation is a bad thing we can look for methods to reduce it.

- you said war for which I agree as it is a method of reducing overpopulation. The reason I would not choose war is because their are other less drastical methods to reduce population.

- Greating laws for a maximum number of children in countries that are already overpopulated is a less stressful and more moral method then letting people kill themselves in wars.
- If we do not get a pension how do we survive into old age? By producing enough children who are capable of supporting you once you get older which is one of the reasons why overpopulation is often common in poor regions.

Sumarry so beside's of not allowing people to have more then a certain number of children the problem can be solved indirectly by providing them support into old age. This however is economically expensive and the expenses that need to be covered demand a reduction in investment of another area.
Wich area the reduction should take place is an economical and difficult question but once solved can greatly reduce overpopulation.

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Humans are really not that different than other animals, are they?


Still there is a category animal and a category human. They are 2 different categories, but in rare circumstances category crossing can take place which I personally observe when login into jsp.

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Quote (MyAccountIsOsterHues @ 21 Mar 2010 00:21)
Before you can start looking for a solution to reduce population you need to check 1 point first:

1. Is overpopulation actually a problem?

It seems to be for the following reasons:

- global warming could be a possible threat and it could be increased by overpopulation.
  Why is that? Calculate the amount of CO2 a single person causes during his life time. The worst CO2 priducer are cows. The reason why we have so many cows is because we have so many people eating them.

- highly populated areas bring with them higher rates of stress, depression, anxiety disorder, population, anonymity and a sense of being lost as compared to small communities that offer strong ties.

- lots of those problems are not found in more urban areas.

There are ofc more negative points of overpopulation but in general I can say that the negative points outweigh the positiv points. In order to prove that I would have to create positive points as well and start weighing them out which is all a comple and time consumin process so I have to stick with my intuition here which is most likely right concerning overpopulation.

2. Now as we have cleared the fact that overpopulation is a bad thing we can look for methods to reduce it.

- you said war for which I agree as it is a method of reducing overpopulation. The reason I would not choose war is because their are other less drastical methods to reduce population.

- Greating laws for a maximum number of children in countries that are already overpopulated is a less stressful and more moral method then letting people kill themselves in wars.
- If we do not get a pension how do we survive into old age? By producing enough children who are capable of supporting you once you get older which is one of the reasons why overpopulation is often common in poor regions. 

Sumarry so beside's of not allowing people to have more then a certain number of children the problem can be solved indirectly by providing them support into old age. This however is economically expensive and the expenses that need to be covered demand a reduction in investment of another area.
Wich area the reduction should take place is an economical and difficult question but once solved can greatly reduce overpopulation.

Can you send me 5fg?


Your "solution" is one which would over time work very good in theory, but never in "practice". it would never be possible to reduce the human population with max 1 children (they have done this for many years in china, but still they are the country with the highest population..).

over population is not really the main problem either, but the way we live. if you look at how the u-countries are growing in terms of living standards (aka more like the western countries) you will see something has to be done. chinese, indian pp etc dont want to have lower living standard then etc us eu. and what happens when africa wants have same living standard as the rest of us? and what can we do prevent/solve this?

if as u say we reduce the number of people we could ofc keep the same standard as we do today. but then again you do you want to "cut down" on the population? 1 children is a sivil way, but then again way to slow to actually have any impact. a faster way would ofc to get a ww3, but then again i dont think the mayority of the people wants that.

a other way is limit the energy usage for everyone. this would be quite hard to control and set a reasonable limit (there is already a agreement like this for countries and business (kyoto agreement), but for it to be effiecent it needs to control everyone one on a personal lvl and would have to be more strict.)

imo the best and possible only way would be to make it economicly important to use less energy and more a "correct energy". imagen cars running by solar panels and exploting the energy from the breaks when it stops and the wind when it has speed. houses with roofs of solar panels and a wind mell in the garden. where all houses and cars etc would produce their own energy needs. to make this possible it would have to have a insanly high focous on and high amounts of money has to be invested to make this possible on a mass scale. to get that investment power i guess it would require oil prices to increase to a lvl where the average joe would ditch the car because of the expanses.
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