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Nov 12 2009 02:01am
Quote (rawr_rawr @ Nov 12 2009 04:54am)
Good try, but terribly inconsistent.

1. Organisms exist, and we know this.
2. The scientific estimation of there being any form of life upon another planet somewhere within the realm of our universe is 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999%. (Based on the factors necessary to support life and the likely number of planets/surfaces that can support life, and this is only as we know life can survive on our planet.There's no telling what type of specimens exist)
3. Indeed almost without doubt. I am not 100% on this, nor should anyone be.

Not to mention such a hypothesis is provable, unlike God. Although, I highly doubt we will ever encounter such creatures.

Tell me, what sort of odds does your God have with a book, and a simple lack of possible explanation at this point in human advancement (in your humble opinion.. I would guess).


with you believing that aliens are an actual possibility then you must consider the chances of one of those aliens to be highly advanced and visit earth and were to be later known as Jesus Christ am i right?



im not saying that because i believe it i just think theres many possibilities

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with you believing that aliens are an actual possibility then you must consider the chances of one of those aliens to be highly advanced and visit earth and were to be later known as Jesus Christ am i right?



im not saying that because i believe it i just think theres many possibilities


i dont really see that as having high odds of happening.

1. they would have to be extremely advanced to travel that amount of distance to get to earth.
2. just because there may be life forms on other planets, they not be identical to humans- their planet may be primarily made of different gases and they are adapted/formed upon their environment. however the bible said jesus was man and was born from a woman? i personally dont think that could be the work of extraterrestrials.
3. then the whole fact of jesus christ, was he son of god or was he just extraordinary back then? an intelligent man back then may have been able to do most of the things jesus was "claimed" to have accomplished. not to mention, the stories could have been exaggerated.
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Nov 12 2009 07:43am
Has anyone of heard of a deistic god? The god with no controversy with science?

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You haven't seen extraterrestrial lifeforms.
You haven't tasted extraterrestrial lifeforms.
You have no proof that extraterrestrial lifeforms exist.

Yet, you believe almost without doubt of their existence. But when it comes to God, you don't reason the same way.

You use a keyboard because you can't type the post without one and you also type because you have a message to convey, yet you believe the genome of any living organism has typed itself for no reason at all.

Incoherence.


Are you serious man? Saying that a man snapped his fingers and created the entire universe, and potentially created himself at the same time, because something cannot come from nothing. This is far from normal reasoning. If anything evolution is so much more plausible then that theory.
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1)  it would take longer than 13 billion years from the singularity for mankind to evolve from rocks

2)  how our planet supports and sustains life is rather suspicious.  everything from how water recycles, to oxygen production, to the atmosphere's protection, it's all too coincidentally perfect.

objectively speaking, it would be more unbelieveable that there isn't a higher being who made it all.  everything about how the universe works suggests that it was designed to support life, somewhere.


Uhm.. Evolution made the different species ADAPT to the surrounding environment. An almighty being is FAR more suspecious than science ^^ ..

I've never heard of anyone being struck by lightning for blasfemi.. Eg if I'am to say that I don't believe in God or use god's name in vain, I should be punished.. I've done that a tons of times..

Btw NASA just found water on the moon + theres found traces of water on Mars as well (old news though)

Oh well I never won the raffle.. Mayb thats my punishment.. The Lord IS said to work in mysterious ways..

AND if there IS a GOD , then tell me why theres OLDER religions than christianity ..

Btw also tell me why its proved that religious countries/populations in general have a lower IQ than non believers O.o

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with you believing that aliens are an actual possibility then you must consider the chances of one of those aliens to be highly advanced and visit earth and were to be later known as Jesus Christ?


and many others all around the globe waaaay before him
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Nov 20 2009 04:58am
the most hilarious thing is that since god would have needed to create this entire situation, god leads back to science.


one way or another it begins and ends with science.
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Nov 21 2009 09:53pm
Quote (Sioux @ Aug 24 2009 11:16am)
O RLY.

If our world is perfect, how come I can think of half a dozen ways it could be better and more efficient?


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Quote (wouldbe @ Aug 24 2009 06:22am)
1)  it would take longer than 13 billion years from the singularity for mankind to evolve from rocks

2)  how our planet supports and sustains life is rather suspicious.  everything from how water recycles, to oxygen production, to the atmosphere's protection, it's all too coincidentally perfect.

objectively speaking, it would be more unbelieveable that there isn't a higher being who made it all.  everything about how the universe works suggests that it was designed to support life, somewhere.


This made me lol. Ofc we tend to think like this, because we are products of this universe. We can't think of how it could have been something else. I believe that "life" might has a lot broader meaning in reality, not only our earth's life.
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Nov 24 2009 11:00pm
well im going to put in my 2cents worth here.

i believe God created the universe. plain and simple.

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2. just because there may be life forms on other planets, they not be identical to humans- their planet may be primarily made of different gases and they are adapted/formed upon their environment. however the bible said jesus was man and was born from a woman? i personally dont think that could be the work of extraterrestrials.


maybe there is life on other planets, a planet so far away we cant see it, and they cant see us. how do you know there is not another planet with human beings on it?

for those who say the believe in extraterrestrials... have you seen them? how do you know they exist?
same way with God. How can you rule out there is no God, but believe in "E.T's" if you have not seen them?

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Btw also tell me why its proved that religious countries/populations in general have a lower IQ than non believers O.o


because there are a whole lot of radical believers who WILL NOT let their children have anything to do with this world, and teach them thierselves, and stuff along that line. also, where is your proof of that?

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