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May 22 2009 12:59pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Fri, May 22 2009, 06:58pm)
Nah, I consider my quotes from dogma and my constant reminders to you that you can't disprove God to be 'proof.'  Hell, you even ceded this argument to me last time we had it for long enough, don't you remember?  The fact that you can't actively disprove God and that there is a chance, no matter how ridiculously small, that God exists? 

Do I have to go dig up the thread?  I guess I can, if you want.


Yeah, dig it up because I remember saying that. But that was before this discovery, frankly I believe I have been proven wrong by my own research.

I love science.


This post was edited by Jazz_Thing on May 22 2009 12:59pm
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Yeah, dig it up because I remember saying that. But that was before this discovery, frankly I believe I have been proven wrong by my own research.

I love science.


Okay, go ahead. Walk me through exactly how this disproves God, so that I can hopefully finally manage to show you the flaw in your logic yet again. :(
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May 22 2009 01:05pm
Jazz, if this discovery turns out to be the missing link, it doesn't disprove religion or god, it only disproves creation science.
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I can't help but feel bad for Jazz_Thing. I'm quite young and I understand that religion and science can coexist. Science may not coexist with some forms of Christianity that preach young earth creationism, but people who believe in that are of such a small minority that they can be discarded.

I will say this again Jazz_Thing...you are a closed-minded individual. You refuse to understand the goals of science and religion. Because of this, you reach the wrong conclusions about both and you end up posting your inane claims.

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Okay, go ahead.  Walk me through exactly how this disproves God, so that I can hopefully finally manage to show you the flaw in your logic yet again.  :(


Eventually Science will uncover enough evidence about the Universe, the Origins of man, the Origins of Human behavior, the Origins of Fundamental Particles, every conceivable event in the Universe that is caused to exist by another event that can be EMPIRICALLY reproduced, is considered to be an advance in Science.

This most recent advance in science once again assures that there will be enough Empirical Evidence to account for the causes of organisms and life forms as well as non-living entities in the universe due to the strides in technology and outpouring interest in Science.

Religion has never made it this far, and frankly never will. That is why Science can disprove God, its so easy yet Scientists want to have all of their evidence in order before fully extinguishing the merest possibility of even a blind creator or God of sorts.

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Eventually Science will uncover enough evidence about the Universe, the Origins of man, the Origins of Human behavior, the Origins of Fundamental Particles, every conceivable event in the Universe that is caused to exist by another event that can be EMPIRICALLY reproduced, is considered to be an advance in Science.

This most recent advance in science once again assures that there will be enough Empirical Evidence to account for the causes of organisms and life forms as well as non-living entities in the universe due to the strides in technology and outpouring interest in Science.

Religion has never made it this far, and frankly never will. That is why Science can disprove God, its so easy yet Scientists want to have all of their evidence in order before fully extinguishing the merest possibility of even a blind creator or God of sorts.


Science will never be able to explain how the initial conditions of the universe came to be. Ask any expert on cosmology and astrophysics about this one. I can tell that you aren't a scientist because you have no idea what you are talking about. The idea of proving or disproving God is laughable.

I can also tell that you are a novice at best in understanding religion because you don't know the goals of religion.
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May 22 2009 01:36pm
Quote (Jazz_Thing @ Fri, 22 May 2009, 12:06)
Eventually Science will uncover enough evidence about the Universe, the Origins of man, the Origins of Human behavior, the Origins of Fundamental Particles, every conceivable event in the Universe that is caused to exist by another event that can be EMPIRICALLY reproduced, is considered to be an advance in Science.

This most recent advance in science once again assures that there will be enough Empirical Evidence to account for the causes of organisms and life forms as well as non-living entities in the universe due to the strides in technology and outpouring interest in Science.

Religion has never made it this far, and frankly never will. That is why Science can disprove God, its so easy yet Scientists want to have all of their evidence in order before fully extinguishing the merest possibility of even a blind creator or God of sorts.


Wow. Just... wow. Krystal pretty much already nailed it - Religion has never tried to empirically prove anything, which is why it's never gotten this far. To reuse Sioux's analogy, this is like saying that Brian Bannister is a horrible pitcher because he's never kicked a field goal. :( Religion isn't an attempt to explain the exact processes of the formation of the universe, it's an attempt to communicate the existence of God and usually the desires of how that God wants us to live our lives. That's it.

That's why there's no contradiction or problem.

Also, I can see how desperately difficult it is for you to actually lay out the logic that it takes for you to go from "Science will discover the origins of the universe" to "God does not exist," so I guess I'll be nice and stop asking such an illogical retard to try to pretend to have logic. :(
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May 22 2009 02:03pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Fri, May 22 2009, 07:36pm)
Wow.  Just...  wow.  Krystal pretty much already nailed it - Religion has never tried to empirically prove anything, which is why it's never gotten this far.  To reuse Sioux's analogy, this is like saying that Brian Bannister is a horrible pitcher because he's never kicked a field goal.  :(  Religion isn't an attempt to explain the exact processes of the formation of the universe, it's an attempt to communicate the existence of God and usually the desires of how that God wants us to live our lives.  That's it. 

That's why there's no contradiction or problem. 

Also, I can see how desperately difficult it is for you to actually lay out the logic that it takes for you to go from "Science will discover the origins of the universe" to "God does not exist," so I guess I'll be nice and stop asking such an illogical retard to try to pretend to have logic.  :(


LOLed Hard.

You have never understood the context of religion for the past 2000 years.

Try again. Honestly, this time remember that Religion has tried to empirically prove things longer than it has been proven incorrect.
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LOLed Hard.

You have never understood the context of religion for the past 2000 years.

Try again. Honestly, this time remember that Religion has tried to empirically prove things longer than it has been proven incorrect.


Blind assertion #234281234123. :(
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May 22 2009 02:08pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Fri, May 22 2009, 08:03pm)
Blind assertion #234281234123.  :(


Did you know that Aristotelian logic has been around longer than the Scientific method? My point is unpacked when you realize how small of a time frame science has actually been in the greater scheme of human Intellectuality, is much smaller than Religion's grip on logic and knowledge.
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