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Mar 20 2013 05:05pm
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The video is presented in a nonfactual way. I find no reason to even complete the clip nor regard anything it presents as remotely true.

The scientific method works just fine.
I never said anyone lied only that they are ignorant or have no clue what their talking about.
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Why should I accept an individual
who knows nothing of what they are talking, provides no citations, no proof, as the truth?
Never called anyone a monkey, and should i not call people out on stupidity when i see it? The "other view" you have presented is grounded in misinformation, conspiracy, pseudoscience, and pure ignorance. This "other view" you speak of should be regarded as nothing more then something to laugh at.


why indeed! But if it is a good show with money and power behind it and paid 200 scientist involved in it it must be true....Easy to claim 1 person is wrong or this don't look entertaining at all so there for wont try to see if facts correct..

you inline like a good trained dog. only take food from your masters

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why indeed! But if it is a good show with money and power behind it and paid 200 scientist involved in it it must be true....Easy to claim 1 person is wrong or this don't look entertaining at all so there for wont try to see if facts correct..

you inline like a good trained dog. only take food from your masters


Again, for being educated I'm a dog? What does that make you? Bacteria?
If it stands up to the scientific method and reaches the point of being a theory then it should be considered fact. If it doesn't then the hypothesis is wrong, it should be reviewed, rewritten and retested.
I honestly don't get what is so hard to comprehend about this.

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Again, for being educated I'm a dog? What does that make you? Bacteria?
If it stands up to the scientific method and reaches the point of being a theory then it should be considered fact. If it doesn't then the hypothesis is wrong, it should be reviewed, rewritten and retested.
I honestly don't get what is so hard to comprehend about this.


that clip is old news nothing new there man, I have no idea what your method of shit is but there is no lies in it.. easy to confirm. As for as By Barrie Trower goes well that is another story that people can say he lies and the corps telling us the truth..If you go by thier record of lying or telling truth in a scientific way well Barrie Trower would be the more logical choice of who is telling the truth...Unless you know it is not possible what he claims..you must know it all ...

....last clip is not science but documented warfare ..
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that clip is old news nothing new there man,I have no idea what your method of shit is but there is no lies in it.. easy to confirm. As for as By  Barrie Trower goes well that is another story that people can say he lies and the corps telling us the truth..If you go by thier record of lying or telling truth in a scientific way well Barrie Trower would be the more logical choice of who is telling the truth...Unless you know it is not possible what he claims..you must know it all ...

....last clip is not science but documented warfare ..


Lol, please keep up gems like this. I can't get enough of how amusing you are. The more I think you can't get detached from reality any more then you already are and you go and prove me wrong at every instance. Bravo!

Years of scientific research(the real kind) says it isn't possible. Unless you're claiming one man can prove a lot of tried and tested scientific findings false.

Said clip has nothing to do with this topic as a whole and shouldn't have been addressed farther then me calling you a idiot for posting it, my bad.

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Lol, please keep up gems like this. I can't get enough of how amusing you are. The more I think you can't get detached from reality any more then you already are and you go and prove me wrong at every instance. Bravo!

Years of scientific research(the real kind) says it isn't possible. Unless you're claiming one man can prove a lot of tried and tested scientific findings false.

Said clip has nothing to do with this topic as a whole and shouldn't have been addressed farther then me calling you a idiot for posting it, my bad.


yes for it is easy look up and connect the dots with others i have posted you missed your mark this time sorry

going not too far back in the past Tesla think before you bold lol

it is not finding false in science it is finding that people lie to make a profit...The science is not immune to this and military science even less....1 whistle blower and soo many stand up saying it is false makes me want say why is he false ...you add this that saying it can't happen but never add the unless this part...We can add a third or forth thing too a action and make it do another completly diferrent action. You seem too short minded to claim this or any of it false

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yes for it is easy look up and conect the dots with others i have posted you missed your mark this time sorry


Yes, and while I connect the dots and get an actual picture. You get a bunch of random lines intersecting each other with no picture to be found.

Until you can half way construct an actual sentence, post citations, and provide proof; I'll be here laughing at you. So please keep entertaining me.
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yes for it is easy look up and connect the dots with others i have posted you missed your mark this time sorry

going not too far back in the past Tesla think before you bold lol

it is not finding false in science it is finding that people lie to make a profit...The science is not immune to this and military science even less....1 whistle blower and soo many stand up saying it is false makes me want say why is he false ...you add this that saying it can't happen but never add the unless this part...We can add a third or forth thing too a action and make it do another completly diferrent action. You seem too short minded to claim this or any of it false


Again it boils down to one man, just one man proving science wrong. If he was right he would have published papers, he would have experimental evidence that is reproducible, he would have all the proof he needs to disprove what he means too. Yet, he has nothing, you have nothing, just what one individual said. Why should I take one person at face value and not be skeptical when he is making the claims barrie trower is?
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Again it boils down to one man, just one man proving science wrong. If he was right he would have published papers, he would have experimental evidence that is reproducible, he would have all the proof he needs to disprove what he means too. Yet, he has nothing, you have nothing, just what one individual said. Why should I take one person at face value and not be skeptical when he is making the claims barrie trower is?


skeptical sure that is good in all things .....I never said take all from people as truth ....But we see where this has been done as far as going far enough do as Barrie Trower says well seems like a few more steps is all..

we keep going to the next step...Military is all secret we hear about things 50 years after the fact,

to be skeptical is good but maybe be more skeptical of the proven liar and not just 1 person. We know why military would lie and see it every day..We know they use torture and worse...We know they would come up with every way possible to kill people....

ok We know a lot of the military ..now what do we know of Barrie Trower ???We lnow he was in the military for a long time and this that and the other...He has credentials in this field where un military science may not..
If he is making this stuff up you would think he be arrested maybe.


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Mar 20 2013 10:45pm
Fortunately making shit up is not a crime.

And I don't know of any laws of physics (theoretical physics) that was discovered by a military in the last 100 years. It almost always come from Universities since there is generally no money to be made in working out theoretical physics. Using these theoretical results to produce tools (sometimes weapons) is where the money is and is often a matter of engineering. I wouldn't be surprised if the military has access to all kind of engineered devices the general public does not know about. But what old Barry is talking about is stuff that is a violation of the known laws of physics, which is not possible with engineering.

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Fortunately making shit up is not a crime.

And I don't know of any theoretical physics that was discovered by a military in the last 100 years. It almost always come from Universities since there is generally no money to be made in discovering a theory. Using these theoretical results to produce tools (sometimes weapons) is where the money is and is often a matter of engineering. I wouldn't be surprised if the military has access to all kind of engineered devices the general public does not know about But what old Barry is talking about is stuff that is a violation of the known laws of physics, which is not possible with engineering.


yeah if you could actually ask him a couple questions seems you would know the right ones to ask how they can.. What would they need ?

Like it or not I think they could work around any law of physics you think you know and hang onto..
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