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Nov 4 2012 11:00am
Quote (Eti_fr @ Nov 4 2012 10:54am)
When people explain it better than me (because they are more aware of the truth/life), why is it bad to quote them ?
It is just the first 2 exemples I had in mind, but I could find you much more... if it was worth my time... it is not because I know you will not listen to me anyway, you told it yourself "don't mind me".
As I told you "the best explanation you can find (at least the best I could find) is in The Present"
If you really want words from myself, read my blog here : http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=64459387&f=276


Because you're quoting them as proof not as conclusion. They're merely restating what you're concluding; I'm asking how you arrived at that conclusion. I read The Present which is why I'm so skeptical of you.
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Nov 4 2012 11:04am
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You're free to post quotes all day every day, but it's still all philosophical feel-good bullshit.


Well, you guys are funny, you say it is bullshit but you never even attempt to give me a better explanation of how life works.
I am waiting for an explanation, I will not keep debating alone on this thread, I already do that on my blog :)

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Because you're quoting them as proof not as conclusion. They're merely restating what you're concluding; I'm asking how you arrived at that conclusion. I read The Present which is why I'm so skeptical of you.


I arrived at that conclusion, because everything that happened in my life, everything I could experience go in that way.

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Well, you guys are funny, you say it is bullshit but you never even attempt to give me a better explanation of how life works.
I am waiting for an explanation, I will not keep debating alone on this thread, I already do that on my blog :)


I'm not the fool with the hubris to claim to understand how life works

and your blog isn't open for debate. No one can dissent there. Debate is a two way street

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I'm not the fool with the hubris to claim to understand how life works

and your blog isn't open for debate. No one can dissent there. Debate is a two way street


You obviously did not read what I post in my blog... You can post if you are on my friendlist, and I accept every brothers ans sisters in my friendlist.
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Quote (Eti_fr @ Nov 4 2012 01:04pm)
Well, you guys are funny, you say it is bullshit but you never even attempt to give me a better explanation of how life works.
I am waiting for an explanation, I will not keep debating alone on this thread, I already do that on my blog :)

And yet you keep on bumping, as if you expect that other people on the internet should be refuting every little thing you find on the internet. Guess what? Part of being an adult is learning that you can't accept everything at face value. Would you trust a man who asks if he can see your wallet, just for a second? What if he promises he'll give it right back?

A little healthy skepticism will serve you better than us giving you some alternative explanation for "how life works". Because the only honest answer I (or anyone else) can give you is "I don't know". It's such a vague question that any individual can find an answer that works for them, but that doesn't mean it's an all-encompassing answer for everyone.
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Nov 4 2012 09:45pm
Humans will always own imperfect information, and thats the truth.
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And yet you keep on bumping, as if you expect that other people on the internet should be refuting every little thing you find on the internet. Guess what? Part of being an adult is learning that you can't accept everything at face value. Would you trust a man who asks if he can see your wallet, just for a second? What if he promises he'll give it right back?

A little healthy skepticism will serve you better than us giving you some alternative explanation for "how life works". Because the only honest answer I (or anyone else) can give you is "I don't know". It's such a vague question that any individual can find an answer that works for them, but that doesn't mean it's an all-encompassing answer for everyone.


Well, maybe I got it wrong with "how life works"... That is not really my question, I know some things will remain misteries anyway.
My question is : do YOU know the truth ? If yes, please share anything that could help others to wake up, if not --> do you want to know the truth ? If yes my first advice is read The Present and The Present with religion... if not --> ok I do not judge you, but do not try to stop me from helping people who want to know the truth... Actually you can try to stop me, but it would be a waste of your time because only death can stop me.
Believe it or not, but it is possible for anyone to know the truth.
I personally do not know the truth yet, but I know the way... If you seek, you will find... you reap what you sow.

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Well, maybe I got it wrong with "how life works"... That is not really my question, I know some things will remain misteries anyway.
My question is : do YOU know the truth ? If yes, please share anything that could help others to wake up, if not --> do you want to know the truth ? If yes my first advice is read The Present and The Present with religion... if not --> ok I do not judge you, but do not try to stop me from helping people who want to know the truth... Actually you can try to stop me, but it would be a waste of your time because only death can stop me.
Believe it or not, but it is possible for anyone to know the truth.
I personally do not know the truth yet, but I know the way... If you seek, you will find... you reap what you sow.


there is only what you see as truth nothing more ......Soo one can say the truth is what you see...But if you believe what you see you may miss the truth...
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Quote (Eti_fr @ Nov 5 2012 09:23am)
Well, maybe I got it wrong with "how life works"... That is not really my question, I know some things will remain misteries anyway.
My question is : do YOU know the truth ? If yes, please share anything that could help others to wake up, if not --> do you want to know the truth ? If yes my first advice is read The Present and The Present with religion... if not --> ok I do not judge you, but do not try to stop me from helping people who want to know the truth... Actually you can try to stop me, but it would be a waste of your time because only death can stop me.
Believe it or not, but it is possible for anyone to know the truth.
I personally do not know the truth yet, but I know the way... If you seek, you will find... you reap what you sow.

You keep speaking about truth, but to what truth are you referring? This one?



I'll give you another tip. Any time you have to describe spreading your philosophy as helping "others to wake up" all you do is identify yourself as the egocentric type of person who believes that someone he is gifted or privileged or special in some way to have this set of information, and that anyone who lacks it is somehow empty or incomplete. It's pure vanity and pride. Believe what you want, but know that billions of other people have pondered the same question that you're doing right now (whatever that question might be) and come up with radically different and equally satisfactory answers, and your answer is no closer to "the truth" than theirs.
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Quote (hotdogski @ Nov 4 2012 10:45pm)
Humans will always own imperfect information, and thats the truth.


So true
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