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#101
Aug 12 2011 12:44pm
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Yes, we are. The average life span keeps increasing, and real medicine has been shown many times to be successful at treating all sorts of problems with the body.
The fact that Mr. Young claims to have something should not impact anything at all. If every random person's claim impacted research, we'd never get anywhere, as we'd be too busy looking into shamanism, zodiac signs and the best methods for crafting effective healing rosaries. That's why Young's credentials came up, by the way. If he wants to be taken seriously, he has to prove that he's more than just a nobody before anyone will even consider his ridiculous claims. Having nothing but a bachelor degree isn't very convincing.

Post #78 is worthless, I'm afraid. All but one of the links go to "phMiracles", which is laughable for obvious reasons (that is, proving that Young is correct by showing quotes where he says "I'm correct"). The only other link is to some random person's story that Young cured her herpies, HIV and cancer in one fell swoop by making her eat some Arm&Hammer baking soda.

I mentioned "magic" because I find it funny that you get all your info on a site called "miracle", which is basically synonymous. I suppose it shouldn't be surprising, giving Mr. Young's religious inclinations, but it's certainly hilariously bad for his credibility. And yes, believe it or not, we get sick. Did you know animals get sick too? And even plants? But hey, I'm sure it's because every living organism on this planet just eats too many McDoubles with a large Coke.

The average person is getting sicker and sicker, and It's happening earlier and earlier in life. Not only are more people developing things like diabetes, many children are now being born with it, no need to wait till we're in our 40s or 50s any more.

He's not just claiming it, He's proving and proved it already, and has hundreds of people to back him up, the people who he has helped.

Stay glued on his credentials then, I don't care, It's your life, do what you want.

post #78 is good, it just doesn't say what you want it to, and I don't see arm & hammer baking soda anywhere.

I find it funny people eat junk there whole lives then cry they have cancer at 50 and say "god why me?" when It's there own fault.

I don't get sick anymore, and I never will, animals like our pets get sick as well because they eat that junk shit found in the pet food stores. Mcdoubles and large cokes will definitely speed up the process to faster aging, sickness, and death.

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#102
Aug 12 2011 12:58pm
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animals like our pets get sick as well because they eat that junk shit found in the pet food stores. Mcdoubles and large cokes will definitely speed up the process to faster aging, sickness, and death.


Most of your post is just "yes, I'm right, but I have no proof", so I'll skip over it.

I guess the only animals on the planet are the ones in human care. And the plants get sick because the only plants on the planet are the ones growing in our gardens, and we put bad acidic fertilizer on them. And the only reason people and animals and plants have always had sicknesses, long before anyone knew what pH was, is because aliens used to put acid in our crops and water, I suppose.
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#103
Aug 12 2011 02:02pm
I'd like to see a double-blind experiment before I believe these alkaline therapies. Without it, you cant prove beyond a doubt that the results were from the therapy itself or just from a generically healthier diet.

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Aug 12 2011 02:47pm
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I'd like to see a double-blind experiment before I believe these alkaline therapies. Without it, you cant prove beyond a doubt that the results were from the therapy itself or just from a generically healthier diet.

Double-blind experiment? Don't count on it. That'd be something necessary for peer reviewed work. Something that alternative medicine never goes for.
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#105
Aug 12 2011 02:56pm
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Most of your post is just "yes, I'm right, but I have no proof", so I'll skip over it.

I guess the only animals on the planet are the ones in human care. And the plants get sick because the only plants on the planet are the ones growing in our gardens, and we put bad acidic fertilizer on them. And the only reason people and animals and plants have always had sicknesses, long before anyone knew what pH was, is because aliens used to put acid in our crops and water, I suppose.

And because cancer is a mystery, and we need to give up more money for drug research for the rest of our lives. We need more drugs imo.


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I'd like to see a double-blind experiment before I believe these alkaline therapies. Without it, you cant prove beyond a doubt that the results were from the therapy itself or just from a generically healthier diet.

A study so incriminating will never take place, and a healthier diet is one that is more alkaline and less acidic.

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Aug 12 2011 02:59pm
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A study so incriminating will never take place, and a healthier diet is one that is more alkaline and less acidic.

There's nothing incriminating about a double blind study. Do you know what one even is?
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#107
Aug 12 2011 03:03pm
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There's nothing incriminating about a double blind study. Do you know what one even is?

Yes it is incriminating because the study would first of all have to be approved, which won't happen, yes I do know what it is. It's not going to be random treatment vs random treatment, there are 1000000000000 treatments out there, so obviously at least one of them is going to be the alkaline regimen to prove It's effectiveness.

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Aug 12 2011 03:41pm
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Yes it is incriminating because the study would first of all have to be approved, which won't happen, yes I do know what it is. It's not going to be random treatment vs random treatment, there are 1000000000000 treatments out there, so obviously at least one of them is going to be the alkaline regimen to prove It's effectiveness.

This is pretty good evidence that you DON'T understand what a double blind study is.

In a double blind study to test if diet affects people's health with a situation like this , then you would have two researches. One would prescribe strict nutritional guidelines to two different groups of patients. One will eat a standard healthy diet, and the other will eat the alkaline diet. Both groups would receive the standard cancer treatments, and the second researcher would be the one analyzing the long-term health of all of the patients involved in the study. Since the second researcher does not know what diets each patient is on, his results cannot be influenced by his own personal biases towards or against the alkaline diet.

The only way such a study would be "incriminating" is that it would prove once and for all that the alkaline diet is bogus. And THAT is the reason one won't be done and Young's work will never be published in a real journal. Bad science is bad.

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Aug 12 2011 05:33pm
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This is pretty good evidence that you DON'T understand what a double blind study is.

In a double blind study to test if diet affects people's health with a situation like this , then you would have two researches. One would prescribe strict nutritional guidelines to two different groups of patients. One will eat a standard healthy diet, and the other will eat the alkaline diet. Both groups would receive the standard cancer treatments, and the second researcher would be the one analyzing the long-term health of all of the patients involved in the study. Since the second researcher does not know what diets each patient is on, his results cannot be influenced by his own personal biases towards or against the alkaline diet.

The only way such a study would be "incriminating" is that it would prove once and for all that the alkaline diet is bogus. And THAT is the reason one won't be done and Young's work will never be published in a real journal. Bad science is bad.

You still don't get it do you?










THEY WON'T USE THE DIET FOR THE STUDY IN THE FIRST PLACE.


What part of this was not understood? I feel like I'm on repeat.
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Aug 12 2011 05:35pm
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You still don't get it do you?










THEY WON'T USE THE DIET FOR THE STUDY IN THE FIRST PLACE.


What part of this was not understood? I feel like I'm on repeat.


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