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Dec 23 2010 05:30am
Quote (Mirage420 @ Dec 23 2010 04:30am)
ROFL....

Being impaired =/= impaired driving skills, Being impaired is just another way of saying thinking in a different mind state, not necessarily a diminished one.

Alright I'm going to say this one more time... Just because it was harder for him to do doesn't mean he has impaired driving skills. He performed better when he was high then when he was sober. That means that his driving skills weren't impaired (weakened, incase you forgot the definition) but actually assisted by weed. The level of difficulty has nothing to do with how he performed.

@ weed affecting motor functions;
The main function of the opiate system is to control motor function, response time and pain response. Activation of the opiate receptors directly supresses the receptors that effect judgement, the adrenal and dopamine receptors. The opiate system is the second largest bundle of nerves in the brain and body. This is why opiates impair judgement, slows motor function and response time. Opiates and alcohol directly effect both cannabinoid receptors and opiate receptors. The receptors in the Cannabinoid system, if over stimulated, makes you sleepy.
THC is a cannabinoid that attaches to the receptors in the cannabinoid system. The cannabinoid system is the largest bundle of nerves in brain and body. Cannabinoids do not attatch to opiate receptors although opiates do attach to cannabinoid receptors. Therefore marijuana does not effect motor reflex or impair judgement.

Edit #2: and just to put all your dumb ass arguments to rest once and for all;

The cannabinoid system controls digestion, hunger, reproduction of muscle fibers, skin cells, brain cells and neurons, metabolism, lipid production in the liver, glucose levels, insulin rejection, nutrient delivery, pain detection and regulation of other neurotransmitters.
What all of this basically means is that when you smoke weed it balances your chemicals, makes you hungry, helps you digest food better, gets nutrients to your cells better, dilates your arteries, tells the body to make new neurons, brain cells, skin cells and muscle fibers, increases good cholesterol lowers bad cholesterol reduces insulin rejection, balances glucose levels, fills out your cells, gives you a greater pain tolerance and helps you sleep better which increases human growth hormone levels, opens up your airways and helps you breath better. And, if smoked sparingly, gives you more energy.
This disproves the theory that marijuana is bad for you and has horrible consiquences on the body and maks you lazy. It is not weed that makes you lazy and lack judgement, it is stupid and lazy people that smoke too much weed that blame their lazyness and poor judgement on weed. Psychologists call this "externalizing blame"

And if that is too much truth for you, Just to disprove your theory that stoners are lazy from my own personal experience, I have been smoking daily since I was 14 years old and I am currently a Junior Business Administration Major with a 3.4 GPA and enrolled in one of the Top Buisness programs in the country @ Colorado State.

Troll on, I look forward to reading your response, although I don't expect one  :bonk:


his driving skills weren't impaired....his ability to apply them was.

and if marijuana didn't affect your motor or thinking ability why the fuck was it harder for him to drive?!
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Dec 23 2010 10:12pm
Doesnt matter. I'm more afraid of old people / soccer moms on Cell phones on the road than people smoking.
I could be baked out of my mind and still drive fine, if not better, because I'd be more focused on what i'm doing. But thats 'cause i'm used to it. Somebody else might not be able to even drive a straight line.
It definatley doesnt "impair" you like alcohol does, or like driving with a cell phone. I've seen people so jacked up on coffee I could've sworn they were on speed or something.

Find an actual pothead, give the guy the test, and he'll probably say it was x10 easier high. Was probably that guys first time and he wasnt used to it.
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Dec 24 2010 09:11am
Quote (Psycho- @ Dec 22 2010 09:23pm)
making weed legal will not make any real difference in people using other drugs. once someone starts enjoying getting high a lot they move onto other forms of drugs to see if its better thats just the way it is.

the only way it should see any form of legality is medical reasons NOT just so people can get high.

pros and cons for recreational marijuana becoming legal.

pro:people get high because they like it(the only reason anyone really wants it legal for recreational use)

cons:its bad for you(dont waste the time saying well others are worse cause thats not a reason to give people another harmful thing)
makes people less productive in general
people using it for fun on a night out become dangerous driver much quicker than people drinking
too fast acting to safe in public

the only other points people make are economical reasons which not enough research has gone into to even legitimately use it for an argument.
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less people in jail which could be fixed by removing jail time as punishment and reducing it to like community service/fines for the lesser marijuana offenses that send people to jail.


Dude, no, just... no. Not at all. I can tell you've probably never actually smoked pot which just makes your argument even more ridiculous. There are literally hundreds of reasons why it should be legal and all of your "cons" are more or less bullshit. McDonalds is fucking HORRIBLE for you and I mean absolutely fucking HORRIBLE for you (listen to me, I'm getting my Ph.D in a few years. I know what I'm talking about). Seriously, do you know how much MSG is in that bullshit? Probably not, but that's more or less irrelevant. The point is if you're going to say that something should be god damned illegal because it's "BAD4U LoL" then let's just go ahead and outlaw alcohol, cigarettes, hookahs, fast food, driving IN GENERAL (holy shit it's dangerous guys!) and an endless list of potential harms. As for your second claim, that's not entirely true. If you were to smoke weed from the second you woke up to the second you went to bed, sure, you might not get as much done but again that's completely irrelevant. Most people aren't going to do stupid shit like that and you know it. People might smoke a joint with some buddies or whatever after a long day to relax similar to kicking back a few beers in the same scenario. It's also completely irrelevant to say it shouldn't be legal for that reason because... well... let's be honest here.... do you know how many people already smoke pot? Is keeping it illegal going to change that? In your mind I'm sure something of that caliber makes sense but to the rest of us it's crap. People who smoke weed are going to continue to smoke weed regardless of the law against it. I'm not even going to comment on your driving reason because it's entirely bullshit and there's nothing intelligible to say to a downright retarded comment like that. Sorry for the attitude but you honestly don't know what you're talking about.
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Dec 24 2010 02:35pm
Quote (topman @ Dec 24 2010 10:11am)
Dude, no, just... no. Not at all. I can tell you've probably never actually smoked pot which just makes your argument even more ridiculous. There are literally hundreds of reasons why it should be legal and all of your "cons" are more or less bullshit. McDonalds is fucking HORRIBLE for you and I mean absolutely fucking HORRIBLE for you (listen to me, I'm getting my Ph.D in a few years. I know what I'm talking about). Seriously, do you know how much MSG is in that bullshit? Probably not, but that's more or less irrelevant. The point is if you're going to say that something should be god damned illegal because it's "BAD4U LoL" then let's just go ahead and outlaw alcohol, cigarettes, hookahs, fast food, driving IN GENERAL (holy shit it's dangerous guys!) and an endless list of potential harms. As for your second claim, that's not entirely true. If you were to smoke weed from the second you woke up to the second you went to bed, sure, you might not get as much done but again that's completely irrelevant. Most people aren't going to do stupid shit like that and you know it. People might smoke a joint with some buddies or whatever after a long day to relax similar to kicking back a few beers in the same scenario. It's also completely irrelevant to say it shouldn't be legal for that reason because... well... let's be honest here.... do you know how many people already smoke pot? Is keeping it illegal going to change that? In your mind I'm sure something of that caliber makes sense but to the rest of us it's crap. People who smoke weed are going to continue to smoke weed regardless of the law against it. I'm not even going to comment on your driving reason because it's entirely bullshit and there's nothing intelligible to say to a downright retarded comment like that. Sorry for the attitude but you honestly don't know what you're talking about.


comparing it to other bad things and saying it should be legal because its unfair to pot smokers is stupid and you need to realize that. pot smokers are a minority and have yet to give the voting populace a reason to make it legal. what percentage of current recreational marijuana users would you consider responsible citizens?

anything that intoxicates you makes you at higher risk for a car wreck. its not as bad as driving drunk but its close.

so anytime you pro-marijuana people feel like giving the voting majority a real reason for them to legalize it lmk. (aka something that would benefit non-smokers to since people don't seem to realize that the voting majority doesn't smoke pot)
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Dec 24 2010 03:22pm
Quote (Psycho- @ Dec 24 2010 01:35pm)
comparing it to other bad things and saying it should be legal because its unfair to pot smokers is stupid and you need to realize that. pot smokers are a minority and have yet to give the voting populace a reason to make it legal. what percentage of current recreational marijuana users would you consider responsible citizens?

anything that intoxicates you makes you at higher risk for a car wreck. its not as bad as driving drunk but its close.

so anytime you pro-marijuana people feel like giving the voting majority a real reason for them to legalize it lmk. (aka something that would benefit non-smokers to since people don't seem to realize that the voting majority doesn't smoke pot)


Why should the government force me and other people to relieve their stress with more dangerous substances like alcohol and cigarettes. Weed is a better non addictive alternative to both of those, and alcohol companies know that, which is why about half of all anti-marijuana spending comes from alcohol companies.
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Dec 24 2010 03:27pm
Quote (Psycho- @ Dec 24 2010 08:35pm)
comparing it to other bad things and saying it should be legal because its unfair to pot smokers is stupid and you need to realize that. pot smokers are a minority and have yet to give the voting populace a reason to make it legal. what percentage of current recreational marijuana users would you consider responsible citizens?

anything that intoxicates you makes you at higher risk for a car wreck. its not as bad as driving drunk but its close.

so anytime you pro-marijuana people feel like giving the voting majority a real reason for them to legalize it lmk. (aka something that would benefit non-smokers to since people don't seem to realize that the voting majority doesn't smoke pot)


No it's not, you stupid fuck. Have you ever smoked weed?
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Dec 24 2010 03:31pm
Quote (AEtheric @ 24 Dec 2010 15:27)
No it's not, you stupid fuck. Have you ever smoked weed?


hes talking out of his ass once again
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Dec 24 2010 03:36pm
Quote (AEtheric @ Dec 24 2010 04:27pm)
No it's not, you stupid fuck. Have you ever smoked weed?


lmfao find me a source that says smoking weed doesn't impair driving skills please.

Quote (Toothfariy @ Dec 24 2010 04:31pm)
hes talking out of his ass once again


same to you because i know i tried it once and couldn't function properly because i could keep track of everything that was going on.

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you both need to realize that not everyone has the same tolerance level to THC and the dosing can be high or low. for a high dose casual smoker it makes driving under normal conditions much harder and more prone to error.

This post was edited by Psycho- on Dec 24 2010 03:41pm
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Dec 24 2010 03:40pm
Quote (Psycho- @ Dec 24 2010 02:36pm)
lmfao find me a source that says smoking weed doesn't impair driving skills please.



same to you because i know i tried it once and couldn't function properly because i could keep track of everything that was going on.


http://www.asylum.com/2010/06/02/university-of-iowa-marijuana-pot-herb-doesnt-impair-driving-ability/

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