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Jan 18 2016 04:02pm
Quote (Nathan @ Jan 18 2016 04:20am)
Life isn't about anything.

Try here: http://forums.d2jsp.org/forum.php?f=125


Life is about everything.
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Jan 18 2016 08:39pm
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Life is about everything.


Then it's not about the choices you make in particular, and there was no reason to point that out in post #9 instead of saying it was about everything in the first place.
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Jan 21 2016 03:58pm
life doesn't matter. pain and suffering
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Feb 1 2016 03:27am
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Then it's not about the choices you make in particular, and there was no reason to point that out in post #9 instead of saying it was about everything in the first place.


Choices are included in the category of everything. I chose to be specific to begin with.
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Feb 2 2016 07:18am
Complex chemistry, and especially organic chemistry with the myriads possible combinations of isoforms, if sustained for a long time, theoretically in the long term only those reactions that sustain themselves will prevail and will be in the final mixture.

But what is life other than a sum of self-sustaining chemical systems??

However, i think that things are not so easy, because in that case, there will be a problem with respect to entropy and order...
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Feb 2 2016 01:12pm
life is about deez nuts
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Feb 2 2016 06:31pm
Indeed everything with a selection process undergoes Darwinian evolution, including universes.
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Feb 5 2016 09:07am
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Indeed everything with a selection process undergoes Darwinian evolution, including universes.


If more that one of them exists!
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Feb 11 2016 10:08am
Biology in theory can be reduced down to chemistry, which can be reduced down to physics, but things grow tremendously complex and its not worth it.
However, I think that mathematical models cannot apply to biological systems that easily. For instance, mathematical models cannot fully represent true biological phenomena because they don't account for the spatial factor. Additionally, they only assume that all chemicals can react with each other without accounting for inhibitory events, or other kind of interactions such as adhesive properties, hydrophobic interactions, etc, etc....Moreover, they can be manipulated until they work.
Some scientists (even legit ones) introduced some kind of these supposed models into computers, played with complexity and supposedly got some incredible hidden patterns that miraculously emerged, in other words, nothing less than bacteria, flowers, animals, etc...
Now i think this is an example how wrong initial assumptions, when used in wrong ways, can lead us to monstruously misleading conclusions.
If your approach in order to answer how from complex primordial chemistry we got to today’s life is this, then it is life answering to the question how from 1, 2, 5, 8 you got 5689 and you claim: Eureka!!! Its 1+2=15*5=3000*8=5689

On the contrary, I think that in a complex chemical system, due to all the kinds of interactions which are unpredictable, the most sustainable combinations of interactions (or else the resulting mixture) will be slowly selected in a step-by-step fashion, brick by brick, until we get the final mixture that will be super sustainable because it was sculped and shaped by eons of struggles and competitions.

In other words, i think that biology should be studied by biologists, and mathematics cannot make real-life cntributions...
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Feb 11 2016 12:43pm
'all of space exists at this moment'

it doesn't, it is expanding, where there wasn't space before.
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