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Oct 12 2014 06:48am
Most likely the multiverse is infinite, and our universe is finite.

We know our universe had a beginning when space and time were created. Since the expansion had a beginning there is a horizon we can't see beyond, so it stands to reason that there is an actual edge somewhere.

Throughout history we have found that our planet is one of many ina solar ssystem, our system is one of many in a galaxy, which is one of many in a universe. It seems logical we will one day discover other universes, that make up a multiverse, other multiverse that make up a megaverse, so on and so forth.

It's also possible that the universe was created inside a black hole, and that our universe is itself a multiverse, hosting billions of other universes inside our black holes.

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Oct 12 2014 08:49am
We already know there's universes in the universe. Lol what's new
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Oct 12 2014 10:14am
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Most likely the multiverse is infinite, and our universe is finite.

We know our universe had a beginning whenspace and time were created.  Since the expansion had a beginning there is a horizon we can't see beyond,  so it stands to reason that there is an actual edge somewhere.

Throughout history we have found that our planet is one of many ina solar ssystem,  our system is one of many in a galaxy,  which is one of many in a universe.  It seems logical we will one day discover other universes,  that make up a multiverse, other multiverse that make up a megaverse,  so on and so forth.

It's also possible that the universe was created inside a black hole, and that our universe is itself a multiverse,  hosting billions of other universes inside our black holes.


the universe is infinite lol. something cannot be infinite and finite at same time. Its been proven that space and time are one in the same. Everything in the end comes down to time. When you think about the rate and speed at which the universe is expanding then it really is infinite as we will never ever be able to catch up and reach that end as it is ever expanding.

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the universe is infinite lol. something cannot be infinite and finite at same time. Its been proven that space and time are one in the same. Everything in the end comes down to time. When you think about the rate and speed at which the universe is expanding then it really is infinite as we will never ever be able to catch up and reach that end as it is ever expanding.


Just because we will never see the edge of an expanding universe, doesn't mean there is no end. We know the Universe is 13.8 billion years old. It started expanding then, had an edge then, and still does. Just because we can not observe something, does not mean it doesn't exist. The multiverse can be infinite, while containing an infinite number of finite universes. Our terminology in this category really hasn't kept up with hypotheses. Universe implies only one, when that is unlikely to be true.
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Oct 12 2014 03:34pm
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Just because we will never see the edge of an expanding universe, doesn't mean there is no end.  We know the Universe is 13.8 billion years old.  It started expanding then, had an edge then, and still does.  Just because we can not observe something, does not mean it doesn't exist.  The multiverse can be infinite, while containing an infinite number of finite universes.  Our terminology in this category really hasn't kept up with hypotheses.  Universe implies only one, when that is unlikely to be true.


still is theory based. until someone can prove it than well see

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Just because we will never see the edge of an expanding universe, doesn't mean there is no end.  We know the Universe is 13.8 billion years old.  It started expanding then, had an edge then, and still does.  Just because we can not observe something, does not mean it doesn't exist.  The multiverse can be infinite, while containing an infinite number of finite universes.  Our terminology in this category really hasn't kept up with hypotheses.  Universe implies only one, when that is unlikely to be true.


What im trying to say is the universes edge is impossible to reach because its accelerating at limitless speed if you can never reach something the distance measured is infinite and what your referring to is quantum physics" the state of an atom is indeterminate until viewed from an outside source" in this case the universe.also multiverse is multiple string theory and all is still speculation,when it comes to theory you can debate all day so should just stick to what what we kno on this topic hehe..

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Oct 12 2014 05:16pm
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What im trying to say is the universes edge is impossible to reach because its accelerating at limitless speed if you can never reach something the distance measured is infinite and what your referring to is quantum physics" the state of an atom is indeterminate until viewed from an outside source" in this case the universe.also multiverse is multiple string theory and all is still speculation,when it comes to theory you can debate all day so should just stick to what what we kno on this topic hehe..


All of what we are discussing is theory lol cmon
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Oct 12 2014 05:24pm
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What im trying to say is the universes edge is impossible to reach because its accelerating at limitless speed if you can never reach something the distance measured is infinite and what your referring to is quantum physics" the state of an atom is indeterminate until viewed from an outside source" in this case the universe.also multiverse is multiple string theory and all is still speculation,when it comes to theory you can debate all day so should just stick to what what we kno on this topic hehe..


infinite means it is limitless i can't walk to japan it doesn't mean the space between here and there is infinite. there is a finite amount of space in the universe and space itself is expanding.
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Oct 12 2014 05:25pm
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infinite means it is limitless i can't walk to japan it doesn't mean the space between here and there is infinite.  there is a finite amount of space in the universe and space itself is expanding.


Again a theory nobody can prove either
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Oct 12 2014 05:51pm
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infinite means it is limitless i can't walk to japan it doesn't mean the space between here and there is infinite.  there is a finite amount of space in the universe and space itself is expanding.



Japans drifts bout an inch a year so its possible for you to walk there..universe is expanding 100"s of light years a second maybe more..so impossible to match speed or go faster therefore never never be able to reach it so infinite..they also say universe is expanding so fast they say will eventually fly apart at end..be nothing left but black holes

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All of what we are discussing is theory lol cmon


Lol

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