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Jun 17 2014 01:09pm
Quote (HighschoolTurd @ Jun 17 2014 01:45pm)
We must all be Robot's right?


Uh, no but good job on missing the point. Lets take normal human development, for instance:

"In the human male, testes develop initially within the abdomen. Later during gestation, they migrate through the abdominal wall into the scrotum. This causes two weak points in the abdominal wall where hernias can later form. Prior to modern surgical techniques, complications from hernias, including intestinal blockage, gangrene, etc., usually resulted in death."

Now that seems like a pretty poor design choice. If I were making a creature from scratch I certainly wouldn't have done that. Every creature on Earth has a multitude of similar "design quirks". This means:

1. God, who is supposed to be perfect, has made some pretty serious errors in judgement when designing these creatures. Or...
2. God did it knowing the ramifications and just didn't care or enjoys watching things suffer through no fault of their own.

Sounds like a rotten deal.
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Jun 17 2014 01:28pm
And I wish we had a separate hole in our face to eat while we can talk. This definitely disproves God! Your claim doesn't disprove God at all. I would imagine you would try: Why God would allow evil as an argument at least, that might be a bit over the top for you though.

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Jun 17 2014 02:54pm
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And I wish we had a separate hole in our face to eat while we can talk.  This definitely disproves God!  Your claim doesn't disprove God at all.  I would imagine you would try: Why God would allow evil  as an argument at least, that might be a bit over the top for you though.


How about you at least try to stay on a single topic, because the presence of evil has little to do with the one at hand.

"And I wish we had a separate hole in our face to eat while we can talk." If you're going to talk about design this is a pretty shit decision as well.
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Jun 17 2014 03:33pm
Quote (HighschoolTurd @ Jun 17 2014 12:28pm)
And I wish we had a separate hole in our face to eat while we can talk.  This definitely disproves God!  Your claim doesn't disprove God at all.  I would imagine you would try: Why God would allow evil  as an argument at least, that might be a bit over the top for you though.


We are talking about intelligent design here, try to focus. Let's take it one step at a time. We have the following assumptions:

1. Creatures were designed by an intelligent entity
2. This entity is powerful and intelligent enough to create perfect designs
3. This entity will not create flawed designs on purpose

From these assumptions, it follows that all creatures would be designed perfectly. The designer wouldn't allow flaws on purpose and is smart enough to not allow them by accident. This conclusion is demonstrably untrue. So, one or more of the assumptions must be false. Which one(s)? Either our designer is too dumb/weak to create a good design, or the designer could have made better designs but made everything partially broken on purpose, or creatures weren't designed at all.
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Jun 17 2014 03:41pm
oh my god shut up

if you honestly believe that you should off yourself right now and find out of you'll be with your precious god, because you aren't welcomed here
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Jun 17 2014 03:42pm
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How about you at least try to stay on a single topic, because the presence of evil has little to do with the one at hand.

"And I wish we had a separate hole in our face to eat while we can talk." If you're going to talk about design this is a pretty shit decision as well.


That's what your friend Tyson suggested in the video! :rofl: Post #3. I agree, it would be a shitty design! Haha

This post was edited by HighschoolTurd on Jun 17 2014 03:44pm
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Jun 17 2014 04:49pm
There is no way to disprove the existence of god because it is defined that way.
I just choose to not put any of my time/effort into something that has zero evidence and only shows itself to self proclaimed prophets.
I don't believe in god for the same reasons I don't believe there is a narwhal that is invisible and completely untouchable in front of me.
HOWEVER, to say that god does not exist is stupid and against the scientific method. I'll just leave him on the back burner until he gives any type of real evidence that he exists.
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Jun 17 2014 05:01pm
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There is no way to disprove the existence of god because it is defined that way.
I just choose to not put any of my time/effort into something that has zero evidence and only shows itself to self proclaimed prophets.
I don't believe in god for the same reasons I don't believe there is a narwhal that is invisible and completely untouchable in front of me.
HOWEVER, to say that god does not exist is stupid and against the scientific method. I'll just leave him on the back burner until he gives any type of real evidence that he exists.


God won't force you to choose him. You have free will and need to make the decision to accept him :) It's the same concept as love. You cannot force love on each other, but both people have to accept it.

I don't want to sound blunt, but he has his heart open for you already.

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Jun 17 2014 07:35pm
Quote (HighschoolTurd @ Jun 17 2014 11:15am)
Better arguments than Tyson complaining that we cannot see certain types of rays with our human eye. Natural disasters would be a good one. Problem of Evil / etc.


Not the answer I was looking for. There is actually no way to disprove the existence of something. And yet, the inability to disprove it exists does not mean that it does. This type of logic forms the cornerstone of science. I think I saw you mention before how science actually supports religion. Well if that is true then why are the fundamentals of science ignored when assessing the validity of religion itself? Shouldn't each complement the other in such a world? You are a very bright person HST, I hope that I am bringing you to look at the world more objectively, and that you ultimately achieve greater happiness.


Quote (Flameyes @ Jun 17 2014 02:41pm)
oh my god shut up

if you honestly believe that you should off yourself right now and find out of you'll be with your precious god, because you aren't welcomed here


Can't use that kind of logic here, since they've been taught to believe they'll be sent to hell if they kill themselves. Convenient, huh? Don't try to grab this awesome thing I want to give you, or I'll mess you up!

Quote (HighschoolTurd @ Jun 17 2014 04:01pm)
God won't force you to choose him. You have free will and need to make the decision to accept him :)  It's the same concept as love. You cannot force love on each other, but both people have to accept it.

I don't want to sound blunt, but he has his heart open for you already.


And science is beckoning you with open arms. You have free will. Yet science does not require you to accept it in order for you to reap its benefits. It merely asks you to open your eyes and observe, then open your mind and analyze what you have seen. It's like the world's greatest gentleman. You can call him names and spill his coffee, yet if you ask he'll still get up and open the door for you. Just like it has opened the door to the world of scripts and programming for you.

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Jun 18 2014 12:28am
Quote (HighschoolTurd @ Jun 17 2014 06:01pm)
God won't force you to choose him. You have free will and need to make the decision to accept him :)  It's the same concept as love. You cannot force love on each other, but both people have to accept it.

I don't want to sound blunt, but he has his heart open for you already.


The magical strawberry princess has opened her arms for you. She is right here in front of me saying that your afterlife is gonna be sweet as fuck if you dedicate your life to her.
No pressure, but I just want you to know that she is open for you. You're gonna be missing out on some awesome afterlife if you make the foolish mistake of not dedicating a huge amount of time to her.
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