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Mar 16 2014 10:58am
Quote (doomchaser @ Mar 16 2014 12:44pm)
What is the first book we have, that talks of the cosmos? But yet you say, has no place here?
Just because you can't see science in the BiBle, does not mean there is none. You just blind to it.  First there was sound, then light..We find this to be true in science...When God is done he will roll it up like a carpet...the Universe is flat,.. We also find this to be true in science...

You see, there is a science in the bible..of the cosmos..It is the first book we have of it .


...no...just no . The Bible is not the first book .
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Mar 16 2014 11:04am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Mar 16 2014 09:58am)
...no...just no . The Bible is not the first book .


Show me a older one, with facts in it?.. We now know to be true.
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Mar 16 2014 11:13am
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Show me a older one, with facts in it?.. We now know to be true.


...the Ebers Papyrus comes immediately to mind .
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Mar 16 2014 11:20am
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...the  Ebers Papyrus comes immediately to mind .


I can't wait for the coming back-peddling. Will he say "not a real book because it isn't in a proper binding"? Or perhaps claim it is a forgery/conspiricy? Or maybe say that since it proscribes what we might consider odd treatments for diseases that it "does not count"?....
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Mar 16 2014 11:27am
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I can't wait for the coming back-peddling. Will he say "not a real book because it isn't in a proper binding"? Or perhaps claim it is a forgery/conspiricy? Or maybe say that since it proscribes what we might consider odd treatments for diseases that it "does not count"?....


...I'm not gonna wait to find out...been up gaming since 4 AM and I need a snooze :thumbsup:
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Mar 16 2014 11:32am
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I can't wait for the coming back-peddling. Will he say "not a real book because it isn't in a proper binding"? Or perhaps claim it is a forgery/conspiricy? Or maybe say that since it proscribes what we might consider odd treatments for diseases that it "does not count"?....


ok maybe not the oldest ....But one of them we have...Not much in facts of the cosmos, But one of the first medical journals we have? "Ebers Papyrus"
And guess all cultures in history, describe the cosmos as they knew it..If we can find true facts in them We just learning about last few hundred years. Is what I'am searching for.

In that respect, guess all Writings should be open for discussing..Was my only point.
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Mar 16 2014 01:37pm
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Show me a older one, with facts in it?.. We now know to be true.


Quote (doomchaser @ 16 Mar 2014 18:32)
guess all Writings should be open for discussing..Was my only point.


that combination,
bible contains only true facts // writings should be open for discussing

Quote (doomchaser @ 16 Mar 2014 17:44)
First there was sound, then light..We find this to be true in science...When God is done he will roll it up like a carpet...the Universe is flat,.. We also find this to be true in science...


2x wat?


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Quote (Hell Knight @ Mar 16 2014 12:37pm)
that combination,
bible contains only true facts // writings should be open for discussing



2x wat?


never said only true facts..The laws of physics, we teach that cannot be broken. Get broken in time with better knowledge. 1 example "invisibility"...They broke that law, yet kept it secret for years....And we still taught it as fact, it was impossible...

Yet every time i post something that could be happening, They point out, it goes against the Law's of physics, that can't be broken lol...

Why I say, people incharge controls the science we get taught....

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Mar 16 2014 03:57pm
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1 example "invisibility"...They broke that law

Can you please cite this "law of invisibility"?

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Mar 16 2014 04:03pm
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ok maybe not the oldest ....But one of them we have...Not much in facts of the cosmos, But one of the first medical journals we have? "Ebers Papyrus"
And guess all cultures in history, describe the cosmos as they knew it..If we can find true facts in them We just learning about last few hundred years. Is what I'am searching for.

In that respect, guess all Writings should be open for discussing..Was my only point.


"One of the things you know about a science book is that, 10 years from now, it's going to be out-of-date. The Bible does not go out-of-date, ergo, the Bible is not a science book. You don't do it any favors by trying to turn it into a science book." -Fr. Guy Consolmagno, Planetary Scientist, Vatican Observatory.
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