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Jan 8 2014 01:17am
The US government will activate the XCOM project and create an army of these guys. Problem solved.

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Jan 8 2014 08:16pm
play the starcraft campaing...aliens and humans fight it out
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Jan 9 2014 01:37pm
Quote (Arsenic_Touch @ Jan 8 2014 02:17am)
The US government will activate the XCOM project and create an army of these guys. Problem solved.

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Jan 9 2014 10:46pm
It's not likely that there's any aliens very nearby. I'm open to the idea that we are not alone in this universe, it would be pretty crazy to say we were.
However, I doubt that any of them have the technology to travel to us. Look up the distance between most stars/galaxies, etc.
If they did exist with that technology, it wouldn't even be a fight. Technology to travel many many many light years, I'd imagine they could destroy us without us knowing it.
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Jan 9 2014 11:45pm
Quote (TeaRs- @ 3 Jan 2014 06:13)
Neat show on may geo right now. They are talking about what would happen. And the types of plans the military has for situations . Any thoughts on this ? How do you think it would play out ? If they were hostile ? Peaceful?


if they would attack, you would have tears in your eyes
if they have the technology to travel here within a reasonable time, they can wipe out humanity if they want to
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Jan 10 2014 04:14am
Quote (brmv @ 10 Jan 2014 01:45)
if they would attack, you would have tears in your eyes
if they have the technology to travel here within a reasonable time, they can wipe out humanity if they want to



Just for fun, it would be fun to put some numbers and see if that's actually realistic. I'll try to bring realistic numbers, and put it relative to real world uses. Anyone feel free to challenge my math, as i'm using wikipedia to do some of this calculation and reference, and am not familiar with all of the subject matter.

Now, as a basis here, let's estimate how much energy they would need to travel here. They are currently building a proof of concept of a warp engine. Since someone managed to optimize the theoretical design, the theoretical energy need to go to alpha centauri was reduced, from the previous estimate of the mass-energy equivalent of the planet jupiter, to that of voyager 1 (722 kilos). What that means is, according to a calculator i found, 6.4890e+19 joules, or 180 250 000 000 000e kwh, or 180.25 petawatt hour of energy/power to get from here to alpha centauri in a small ship. The entire world put together produces 143, mind you, and they'd need to travel distances millions of times larger, on crafts that would likely be thousands of time heavier.

Industrial lasers get up to a few kilowatts, they can slice solid steel from nearly any distance. Let's assume they do produce more energy in one ship, than we do in the entire world, imagine the power of a laser 1% of that power, a laser of 1.8 terawatt, run for an hour, accounting for 1% of the energy spent getting here even in a small ship from a neighborhing system, i think it's safe to say that laser would be able to wipe up any city off the map, from orbit too, whatever we tried to do. That's not even taking into account the insane bacteriological weapons they might have at their disposition too.

Honestly, with these kinds of figures, we'd have as much chance of survival as ants do when we try to carpet bomb them. But these kinds of numbers are giving me another thought. These civilisations, if they have access to these kinds of terrifying weapons, if they were warlike, they would likely have wiped each other off the map far before reaching any other world. If they had come close, one could imagine that the survivors would have learned one hell of a lesson, lasting the rest of that race's history.

Secondly, to start a war, they have to either hate us, fear us, or covet what we have. They'd have no reason to hate us, nor fear us, and what could they possibly find on earth, that they cannot get just as easily elsewhere? If they did visit us, something tells me that they'd more likely to be some kind of alien national geographic than some overlord conquerors here to kill and enslave us.

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Jan 10 2014 04:45am
Quote (StephanePare @ Jan 10 2014 03:14am)
They are currently building a proof of concept of a warp engine.
Who is building it? Scottie or Spock?

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Jan 10 2014 05:27am
Quote (Azrad @ 10 Jan 2014 06:45)
Who is building it? Scottie or Spock?


I'll find the link tomorrow, right now it's 6:20 am and i need my sleep. I think it's the NASA, they're going to stretch and compress space around a single short stick first to see if the concept works as they estimate it would do in the simulation, this "simple" proof of concept is still like a decade away of being completed though. there's also other problems like some heat that would melt the ship as you re-enter space outside your warp bubble.

Don't expect to see a real ship using this in your life time, we're just at the step of proving that, if we could gather the energy, it'd work.

edit: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/164326-nasa-discusses-its-warp-drive-research-prepares-to-create-a-warp-bubble-in-the-lab

here you go, and have a good day!

This post was edited by StephanePare on Jan 10 2014 05:29am
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Jan 10 2014 09:18am
The military has alien defense plans?
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Jan 10 2014 12:02pm
There are enough nukes to blow up the planet 5 times over. We'd just shoot nukes at them till they leave us alone.
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