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Sep 10 2013 11:30am
Quote (brmv @ Sep 10 2013 04:07am)
cosmological models are build to accommodate observations and the attempt to reconcile those with what is still unclear
so if you want to create a new model you have to determine which observations you are going to accept within the limits of current instrumentation
and then you will have to ensure that the model you create is consistent

this^^^
  • typically you start with an observation
  • then you work out a mathematical framework which can explain it
  • and finally you or other people will come up with hand-waving fluffy feel good analogies for the pubic and put them in videos on the discovery channel, which are not actually useful (except possibly to help you sleep better :D ).
You're trying to start with the good analogy and wanting to work your way backwards. While this might be possible, it certainly is the hard way.

Crackpots do the same thing, except they don't even try to work backwards (and generally think it is not necessary or worse believe it would somehow be incorrect to even try). So you are certainly no crackpot IMO.

This post was edited by Azrad on Sep 10 2013 11:40am
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Sep 10 2013 12:15pm
Quote (brmv @ Sep 10 2013 11:15am)
that is certainly to be appreciated
but do i interpret it right to imply that you have no formal training in theoretical physic or functional analysis?

while there are some simple description for cosmological theories around, they hide the fact that an immense amount of work forms the basis for these
and to build any reasonably comprehensive different model will require likewise an immense amount of work and prerequisite knowledge
without having a decent grounding in theoretical physics including the understanding of necessary mathematics
(just have a look at hilbert spaces and how much you understand of those)
it is more or less impossible to fully comprehend the current ones or to build any reasonable new model

btw, how did you come to your idea?
did you recently read the silmarillion by tolkien?
or did you find some pseudo-scientific youtube video?


I combined my own observations of the univers and my 'systems' oriented style of thought with a number of other principles I have heard about.

I'm really using 'sound' as a metaphor here to explain the organization of the vibrational aspect of string theory. I'm trying to make the tie that the universal particles in terms of string theory that make up our universe and mass are similar to how vibrations make sounds, and those sounds can be 'organized' into notes and symphonies the same way matter is organized into atoms, compounds, and organized life. I'm terrible at wording this methaphor/analogy, although it makes 'sense' in my thoughts.

Thanks again for the input. Short on time so I'll reply to other's later. Keep the comments coming.
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