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May 30 2013 12:30pm
Quote (AEtheric @ May 11 2013 05:08pm)
I dunno man. The energy density of fat is pretty high. I say we should use the fat from corpses to power our electrical needs. Sounds good, no?


just another finite source :(
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May 30 2013 09:46pm
I'm betting it all on fusion. Hopefully we'll have enough fossil fuels to last us until the 2070's.
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May 31 2013 09:06pm
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just another finite source :(


Well, it would be far more useful to use things that are renewable with less money put into them in order to make them viable for break-even. This would be completely free energy used from the corpses of the dead, and we could use other sources in tandem with it. Humans are not finite, they are essentially renewable, but I don't see why they would be used as a primary source, as they certainly wouldn't break even, similar to a pound of beef requiring hundreds or thousands of gallons of water and food. I posit that we suck all the water from their bodies, and then burn their fat to power a small amount of energy.
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May 31 2013 11:37pm
There is a wealth of renewable clean energy sources on earth (solar and wind) and we have the technology to exploit it. Problem is, its a relatively new way of thinking for humans. For thousands of years we have been unsustainable consumers and there is billions of dollars businesses surrounding unsustainable energy sources like oil and coal. These businesses control a large part of energy market. It is extremity hard to convince a business to change their methods of energy production when they are currently raking in cash hand over first. Its very hard to get people to change their mind unless there is a financial incentive involved. In theory, as resources become more scarce and expensive, perhaps the clean energies will have a better chance to catch big businesses attention.

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Well, it would be far more useful to use things that are renewable with less money put into them in order to make them viable for break-even. This would be completely free energy used from the corpses of the dead, and we could use other sources in tandem with it. Humans are not finite, they are essentially renewable, but I don't see why they would be used as a primary source, as they certainly wouldn't break even, similar to a pound of beef requiring hundreds or thousands of gallons of water and food. I posit that we suck all the water from their bodies, and then burn their fat to power a small amount of energy.


Sucking water from their bodies? why? how could this possibly be worth doing. Burning dead bodies for heat? Things like Coal is likely considerably less expensive than cow fat in terms of cost and energy produced. They use extra fat from cows for adding to ground beef and sausage. I'm not saying its a bad idea, its just probably not less expensive than other currently used methods. I really don't think burning bodies is very clean. It probably makes a big smokey stink worse than coal.
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Jun 12 2013 03:05pm
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Things like Coal is likely considerably less expensive than cow fat in terms of cost and energy produced. They use extra fat from cows for adding to ground beef and sausage.


biodiesel is from animal fat
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Jun 12 2013 05:13pm
Quote (Hell Knight @ Jun 12 2013 02:05pm)
biodiesel is from animal fat


My comparison was coal to beef fat for means of heating a power plant that produces electricity. Last time i checked, you cant power a vehicle with just coal. Biodiesel is a completely different energy source and is used to replace or supplement gasoline/diesel, not usually used to make electricity. Many of todays freight train engines run on diesel and produce large amounts of electricity to power the train, but this inst a good cost comparison of coal, animal fats, or oil products because its much more efficient and easier to carry diesel and generators on trains than its is bunch of coal and a coal powered generator. Where as a a power plant that never moves, coal is more efficient in terms of cost.

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Jun 12 2013 05:54pm
use all fossil fuels. worry about issue when it arises.
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Jun 15 2013 01:52pm
anyone mention kinetic energy? isnt that abundant? clean? :bouncy:
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Jun 18 2013 08:44pm
Quote (Quoz @ May 30 2013 10:46pm)
I'm betting it all on fusion.  Hopefully we'll have enough fossil fuels to last us until the 2070's.


controlling fusion would pretty much solve the energy problem.
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