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Jan 7 2013 12:17am
Quote (checksuki @ Jan 6 2013 09:25pm)
That's easy...it's called coverup


The appeal to a cover up/conspiricy is how you make a claim truly unfalsifiable:

Person A: Mice are hyper-intelligent pan-dimension beings put on the Earth to secretly watch humanity.

Person B: Here are some peer reviewed journal articles showing there is good evidence that mice have a common descent from other small mammals.

Person A: The people who wrote those articles, the peer reviewers, and the publishers are part of the 'mice coverup'.

You see, if you label everything that contradicts your claim as being part of the conspiracy, your claim can never be demonstrated to be false, even in principle. If it is not falsifiable, it's validity can not be tested and therefore it is not scientific.

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Jan 7 2013 12:22am
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The appeal to a cover up/conspiricy is how you make a claim truly unfalsifiable:

Person A:  Mice are hyper-intelligent pan-dimension beings put on the Earth to secretly watch humanity.

Person B: Here are some peer reviewed journal articles showing there is good evidence that mice have a common descent from other small mammals.

Person A: The people who wrote those articles, the peer reviewers, and the publishers are part of the mice coverup.

You see, if you label everything that contradicts your claim as being part of the conspiracy, your claim can never be demonstrated to be false, even in principle. If it is not falsifiable, it's validity can not be test and therefore it is not scientific.


all you are doing is using a slippery slope. its the same thing the nra does when they display their statistics, or the brady group vice versa. those are examples of cover up that are displayed on fox news, so its not above your head.
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Jan 7 2013 12:30am
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its the same thing the nra does when they display their statistics, or the brady group vice versa. those are examples of cover up that are displayed on fox news, so its not above your head.
This is the science section, not the politics section; not going to comment on that here.
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Jan 7 2013 12:38am
Quote (Azrad @ Jan 7 2013 12:30am)
This is the science section, not the politics section; not going to comment on that here.


Of course you aren't.
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Jan 7 2013 01:45am
if youve actually been diagnosed with cancer, you need to go see an actual doctor.

if youve been horribly ill for years now and the doctors have no idea whats wrong with you, you have to realize that doctors are idiots and very greedy. if your illness is not incredibly obivious, ie. vomiting blood because of cancer, he will mostly try to syphon as much money out of you and your insurance company as possible. he does this because he has the pre concieved notion that you illness is stress and axiety related. so instead of actually trying to treat you, he switches over to the appeasment method where he throws everything at you that you ask for, in an effort to appease you and inturn allow you to get over your anxiety, instead of actually trying to find out whats wrong with you because his arrogance has convinced him that the issue is simply anxiety.

the reality is that you liekly developed and are suffering from a food alergy due to eating habits , something as simple as a 30 day detox and or vegatable juice fast would make you feel right as rain, almost like you jus cured cancer, and bring attention to the fact that something you were eating was causing an issue.

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Jan 7 2013 02:45am
You guys believe your average general practitioner is a scam artist? How many people are involved in this conspiracy? 100,000? 5 million?

Is there anything you guys won't believe?
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Jan 7 2013 04:07am
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You guys believe your average general practitioner is a scam artist? How many people are involved in this conspiracy? 100,000? 5 million?

Is there anything you guys won't believe?


all you need is the FDA.
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Jan 7 2013 04:25am
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You guys believe your average general practitioner is a scam artist? How many people are involved in this conspiracy? 100,000? 5 million?

Is there anything you guys won't believe?


health insurance fruad costs the US about 80 billion a year.

i dont know about a conspiracy, but as far as your average general practitioner getting kick backs for certain referalls, slightly unnecessiary procedures, or putting in claims like calling the application of a bandaid, out patient surgery, then Yes, your average general practitioner is a scam artist.

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Jan 7 2013 06:20am
Quote (Azrad @ Jan 7 2013 01:17am)
The appeal to a cover up/conspiricy is how you make a claim truly unfalsifiable:

Person A:  Mice are hyper-intelligent pan-dimension beings put on the Earth to secretly watch humanity.

Person B: Here are some peer reviewed journal articles showing there is good evidence that mice have a common descent from other small mammals.

Person A: The people who wrote those articles, the peer reviewers, and the publishers are part of the 'mice coverup'.

You see, if you label everything that contradicts your claim as being part of the conspiracy, your claim can never be demonstrated to be false, even in principle. If it is not falsifiable, it's validity can not be tested and therefore it is not scientific.


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Jan 7 2013 09:19am
These "doctors are scam artists" posts remind me of the time when I worked in retail IT support cleaning viruses and reinstalling OSes. I couldn't believe how many people had a firmly held belief that I, and every other person like me, purposefully install "delayed" viruses, or do some other technical voodoo that makes the machine work fine for a limited time and then break so you'd come back and give us more money. Alternatively, we would allegedly tell them they need to buy a new piece of hardware because we get some kickback from the retailer who sells it, when the customer either doesn't need the hardware at all, or we could have easily fixed whatever was broken instead of replacing it. They basically said the same thing about us that some people here say about doctors, except in relation to their computers rather than their bodies.
Needless to say, I thought they were batshit crazy tinfoil hatters, and continued doing my best to remove whatever stupid malware shit they managed to clog their computers with. I imagine doctors the world over have a pretty similar view of their conspiracy-nut patients.
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