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Oct 9 2012 02:24am
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Oct 9 2012 07:00am
thought is a great tool its your minds conciousness to decide when is the right time to think or to not to think
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Oct 9 2012 09:24am
since when does everyone appreciate music more the less they think about it? half the time i don't concentrate on what i'm listening to, i forget i'm listening to it...and animals not thinking and dreaming and having emotions? what? my dogs get genuinely upset when my dad takes one out on a leash and leaves the other two behind. i've watched my dogs fidget and twitch and make little barking noises in their sleep as if they were dreaming. this is a whole bunch of mumbo jumbo
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Oct 9 2012 04:14pm
Quote (Derkaderk @ 9 Oct 2012 17:24)
since when does everyone appreciate music more the less they think about it? half the time i don't concentrate on what i'm listening to, i forget i'm listening to it...and animals not thinking and dreaming and having emotions? what? my dogs get genuinely upset when my dad takes one out on a leash and leaves the other two behind. i've watched my dogs fidget and twitch and make little barking noises in their sleep as if they were dreaming. this is a whole bunch of mumbo jumbo


Well, I experienced this myself : the less I think, the more I enjoy music and the present moment in general.

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Oct 9 2012 07:23pm
my cats definitely have personalities and sure as hell have attitudes. they understand what i say. they just cant understand overly complicated ideas. and cats.. could probably give a fuck less anyway.
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Oct 9 2012 08:39pm
Quote (Eti_fr @ Oct 9 2012 04:14pm)
Well, I experienced this myself : the less I think, the more I enjoy music and the present moment in general.


well it in no way supports your claim because it is in no way universally true
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Oct 10 2012 05:41pm
Quote (Derkaderk @ 10 Oct 2012 04:39)
well it in no way supports your claim because it is in no way universally true


Truth is universal or it is not truth :)
We all have a different perception, but it doesn't change the fact that we need to breathe to stay alive, or that the sun will rise tomorrow for exemple...
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Oct 10 2012 08:08pm
Quote (Eti_fr @ Oct 10 2012 05:41pm)
Truth is universal or it is not truth :)
We all have a different perception, but it doesn't change the fact that we need to breathe to stay alive, or that the sun will rise tomorrow for exemple...


that was the point. well the first sentence
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Oct 24 2012 12:21pm
Op obviously hasn't met Koko


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Oct 24 2012 01:30pm
Quote (Nymphomaniac @ Oct 9 2012 01:23am)
On topic: "I think so I exist" does not imply that one can only exist if one thinks. P -> Q does not mean !P -> !Q.

this^^^

For anyone interested: Descartes was discussing the possibility that everything you have ever experienced might be a trick created by some powerful demon (in modern times we might call it the matrix from the movie of the same name). Descartes argues that even if everything is just a trick, if you do not exist, you can not be tricked into believing you do exist. I think, therefore I am.

Re-phrased might read: Because I can think, I must exist in some form (even if I have been tricked about the nature of this form).

This post was edited by Azrad on Oct 24 2012 01:35pm
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