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Jun 14 2012 11:37am
If you don't think the war on drugs is a real issue, you don't understand the magnitude of the implications. It's not just about a group of potheads' right to smoke pot without fear of legal retribution
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Jun 14 2012 11:54am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Jun 14 2012 07:35pm)
all you care about is the stupid and unimportant aspects of our world


wrong, i dont care about you at all

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If you don't think the war on drugs is a real issue, you don't understand the magnitude of the implications. It's not just about a group of potheads' right to smoke pot without fear of legal retribution


drug - A substance that has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body, in particular.

you can get drugs at the hospital to treat a specific issue and use those drugs without fear of legal retribution, war on drugs is a war on illegal destribution of same kind of substances you can get at the hospital, only edited to have a greater effect at the lowest cost

hospital stock is supplied by global corporations and the illegal destribution hits them right in the pocket, so if you think the war on drugs that you described is some noble voyage to save humanity you can think again


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Jun 14 2012 12:08pm
You should probably read the article first. The study takes into acct personal and social effects of the drug use. Since it isn't as widely used, and typically done as a weekend party drug, it's going to rank low. Way more people do the pot, so it will rank higher. Also, I think this doesn't include regular rolls, which are almost always mixed with opiates or amphetamines.
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Jun 14 2012 12:42pm
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You should probably read the article first.  The study takes into acct personal and social effects of the drug use. Since it isn't as widely used, and typically done as a weekend party drug, it's going to rank low.  Way more people do the pot, so it will rank higher.  Also, I think this doesn't include regular rolls, which are almost always mixed with opiates or amphetamines.


According to the article it scored it based on possibility that it will harm you if you take it, not overall harm done. It would be a very poor survey if they conducted it based on total number of people it has harmed.

And the article is talking solely about pure MDMA, not dealing with the random, dangerous shit that it's cut with(Which is, according to the articles, the biggest danger). I was just surprised to hear that pure MDMA really isn't that harmful in and of itself.
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Jun 14 2012 03:40pm
i used to be a big extacy pill popper back in the day when i was younger. compared to the other drugs ive done id say it isnt that bad. the only side affect i see from it is anxiety issues sometimes but thats really not that bad compared to liver damage or lung cancer ect. but then again im no doctor
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Jun 14 2012 04:00pm
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wrong, i dont care about you at all



drug - A substance that has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwise introduced into the body, in particular.

you can get drugs at the hospital to treat a specific issue and use those drugs without fear of legal retribution, war on drugs is a war on illegal destribution of same kind of substances you can get at the hospital, only edited to have a greater effect at the lowest cost

hospital stock is supplied by global corporations and the illegal destribution hits them right in the pocket, so if you think the war on drugs that you described is some noble voyage to save humanity you can think again


Wait, so you think it's more noble to protect pharmaceutical companies?

I was thinking about protecting people who are paying fines/being incarcerated for smoking a little weed...I was talking about curbing the influence of cartels...I was talking about fostering businesses surrounded with the cannabis and hemp industries.

Maybe cleaning out overcrowded prisons? I don't know perhaps lowering the cost of medication for those in need? Cannabis helps in several medical cases - Glaucoma, appetite stimulant? Hell, it helps with hangovers, but yeah, you're right, let's keep pushing tylenol around.

And what? Your argument is the illegal distribution hits corporations right in the pocket...so...let's make it legal and put the money right back? Cause right now the illegal distribution is costing them money too, and they're spending even more to make sure they don't have to worry about changing up their market strategy

And for what it's worth, I said it's not about a bunch of potheads' right to smoke pot without fear of legal retribution.

This post was edited by Derkaderk on Jun 14 2012 04:07pm
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Jun 14 2012 04:32pm
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Wait, so you think it's more noble to protect pharmaceutical companies?


i think you misunderstood, i said that the people you never heard about that make the decision to start the war on drugs are not in it for the happyness of humanity, they're in debt to the companies that funded their ellection campaigns
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Jun 14 2012 05:10pm
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i think you misunderstood, i said that the people you never heard about that make the decision to start the war on drugs are not in it for the happyness of humanity, they're in debt to the companies that funded their ellection campaigns


oh well then yes, I agree

and I think you took the wrong sentiment from my first statement - I think the war on drugs is ridiculous
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Jun 14 2012 05:33pm
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oh well then yes, I agree

and I think you took the wrong sentiment from my first statement - I think the war on drugs is ridiculous


yeah lol i took it completely the opposite way
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Jun 15 2012 02:33pm
Quote (Subwoofer @ Jun 14 2012 01:35pm)
this is exactly why i laughed at your other topic. all you care about is the stupid and unimportant aspects of our world and try to act like you're better because of it.

marijuana isn't even close to important and you would rather hop up on a soap box preaching legal marijuana than a real issue because you are a silly little hipster.


Its a very important issue. Using hemp instead of paper could open up possibilities for textiles, paper products, and possibly even biofuel.

Given the amount of widespread misinformation on the subject, I'll agree with helic.
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