Quote (Taniwha @ Feb 17 2012 06:48pm)
I've pondered for a long time.. How did our universe come to be?
I soon discovered simple theories which made sense but it still left me to wonder..
There had to be something that it came from. You can't make fire without friction.. What rubbed together to spark it up?
Spoiler alert, I do not believe in God and I believe science to be our only saving grace, but...
Perhaps there is a "God" particle that creates friction, creates dust...
Said particle existing somehow in a way that we could never comprehend..
Maybe that is how we got confused and thought there was a man in the clouds?
I'd like to hear what other people think.
I know we're probably too stupid as humans to understand but I really need something to rest my head.
I watched a video on this in my physics class last year.
Imo its pointless to support theories of how the universe came about and what not because nobody has any idea.
No one knows what actually happened, and there is no good evidence supporting any theory so it basically comes down to faith (be it in 'science', religion etc).
This video tho said that there are 4-D 'branes'. Our univserse exists as one of these branes iirc (or inside the brane).
This theory stated that our brane collided with another brane giving the 'friction' or startup energy for the big bang.
Does this sound plausible? Sure.
Is there any evidence for or against it? Nope.
So you can believe this or anything else you want, because the origin of the universe will not be known in our lifetime.
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Quote (GrindTime @ Feb 18 2012 03:08pm)
again, we have encountered a limit on a subatomic level. we have proven 3 things. 1 is that the human brain isnt even capable of fully understanding what goes on at a subatomic level
2 is, these particles are literally engineered to keep us in the dark, to hide information from us, its a full blown ruse.
3 is, you can know measurement 1 of a particle, or measurement 2 of a particle, however you cannot know both measurements.
Yes these are limits atm, but imo will not last forever.
How much generally accepted 'science' has been disproven as we become more advanced?
The world was flat, the sun revolved around the Earth, rotting food caused spontaneous generation of maggots..etc.
Yes right now we can not fathom a way to overcome the uncertainty principle, but (hopefully humanity can exist) in hundreds or thousands of years from now they could have technology and insight to overcome such obstacles.
No one ever thought we'd leave this planet and go to the moon but it happened. If you told a philosopher from Ancient Greece/Rome that we'd travel to the moon they'd have called you ridiculous. Just as you would call me ridiculous if I claimed the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle was not infact true.
Thats just my take on things. Science evolves and at some point all of these laws we have now could be disproven, tweaked or more fully understood.
I'm pretty sure all we need to do is achieve absolute zero to nullify the uncertainty principle.
This post was edited by murder567 on Feb 19 2012 09:50am