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Feb 9 2012 01:54pm
Quote (kayeto @ Feb 9 2012 09:23pm)
Wrong. Living in harmony with the Earth is useless. The Earth will not last forever and humans need to look beyond it and try to find ways to survive on other planets. That is the only way humans can prevent their own extinction.


oh but the only objects we should look forward to colonise are those in the solar system
for the time being, at least
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Feb 9 2012 01:55pm
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oh but the only objects we should look forward to colonise are those in the solar system
for the time being, at least


solar system only has 7 billion years left on it

not good enough for me bro. gotta think bigger than that.
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Feb 9 2012 02:27pm
First, there are way, way more scientists studying life on Earth than those searching for extraterrestrial life.

Ants work together not because of intelligence, but because they are genetically built to do so.

Intelligence is the ability to ask questions, to wonder about the existence of extraterrestrial life, to think philosophically. Dolphins don't do that. Gorillas can do simple addition, but they can't write proofs. They can find food when they are hungry, but they can't make the decision to not eat it because they want to lose weight. They are incapable. Ants all work together not because they know that if they don't work together they will die, but because an ant is physiologically incapable of doing something that will jeopardize their individual and group success. Success meaning surviving and procreating.

Humans are capable of asking the questions: Where did we come from? Why are we here? We are very curious, and we choose to make an effort to find the answers to those questions. Some people search for the answers in philosophy and religion. Animals don't have philosophy or religion. Some search for those answers by studying evolution and ecology on Earth. Some search for those answers by trying to explain the origins of the universe, by trying to figure out how life first comes into existence. Animals don't study science.

All animals do is act on the instincts that allowed their ancestors to survive over their competitors millions of year ago.
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Feb 9 2012 02:41pm
how the hell is crazy sounds heard around the planet in the top ten threads jsp?
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Feb 9 2012 06:15pm
If intelligence is the ability to live in harmony then I've got some genius rocks to sell you.
These rocks are so intelligent they never do anything or react to anything, perfect harmony.
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Feb 14 2012 10:36pm
so you like the idea of being contained within your limits and limiting your knowledge expansion. waste of a brain imo
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Feb 15 2012 02:53am
Seriously? If you aren't ENTHRALLED by the idea of finding other intelligent species in the universe, I simply can't understand you. Imagine if they are eons older than our species, the advanced mathematical, scientific, technological feats they may have accomplished, currently unimaginable by humans. Imagine if there is an intergalactic government that includes loads of species that we are unaware of.

Wishful thinking, sure, but it's worth the search.

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Feb 15 2012 04:14am
bcz the grinch (newt) said we are going to live on the moon

/thread t4
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Feb 15 2012 06:47am
eh that's not how I define intelligence
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Feb 15 2012 12:37pm
To further our knowledge of the universe obv.
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