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What is the distance between the 2 opposite expansion sides of the universe as of today?
I know that no one can answer correctly this question as of today, but they can approximately answer as to what it was millions if not billions years ago and then guess with some calculations what it is today.

NO ONE can say anything accurate about our distant universe of today, you can only talk about its past, and guess the now, because all the light you see took billions of years to reach your eye, or any telescope.


Also at what speed is the universe expanding? Light speed?
Because if it's not light speed then what is the place called where there's no universe but there's light? A little bit odd place imo ^^

Or is the universe expanding faster than the light speed?
What is that place called where there's universe but there's no light?

Or is light just created with the expansion of the universe instead of being emitted by stars? What is emitting that light then if this is the case?

Also what is causing the expansion of the universe and what is it being filled with? Vaccum and empty space is full of energy and information, how is this energy and information being multiplied in order to fill the vast new universe every second of its expansion? Where does all this unlimited source of energy comes from?

Odd me out please.

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What is the distance between the 2 opposite expansion sides of the universe as of today?
I know that no one can answer correctly this question as of today, but they can approximately answer as to what it was millions if not billions years ago and then guess with some calculations what it is today.

NO ONE can say anything accurate about our distant universe of today, you can only talk about its past, and guess the now, because all the light you see took billions of years to reach your eye, or any telescope.


Also at what speed is the universe expanding? Light speed?
Because if it's not light speed then what is the place called where there's no universe but there's light? A little bit odd place imo ^^

Or is the universe expanding faster than the light speed?
What is that place called where there's universe but there's no light?


It's expanding faster than light, and it's accelerating

and it's called dark

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It's expanding faster than light, and it's accelerating

and it's called dark


Very good, so where is all the energy and information coming from that fills all of that dark place?
Also how do they know for sure that it's expanding and its happening faster than light speed if there's no possible way to see anything out of that expanding place? Much less in just a couple hundred years of humanity telescoping..

Also what is that is expanding (what's the process that leads to expansion/what is it really happening in the front line of expansion?), and how is it limited?


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Very good, so where is all the energy and information coming from that fills all of that dark place?
Also how do they know for sure that it's expanding and its happening faster than light speed if there's no possible way to see anything out of that expanding place? Much less in just a couple hundred years of humanity telescoping..


read up on Hubble's law. it has to do with doppler shift.

As I understand, it's not new energy/information. The universe is just becoming less dense

and I don't think the universe is emitting light as it expands
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read up on Hubble's law. it has to do with doppler shift.

As I understand, it's not new energy/information. The universe is just becoming less dense

and I don't think the universe is emitting light as it expands


Are the galaxies being spread apart at the same speed that the universe is expanding?
Or are the galaxies place somewhat static (not relevant to mention/spreading slower than light speed), and it will only be empty space forever in that dark and new places reached by light every second?
Because I don't believe that galaxies or stars can be formed out of empty space, can they?

Or is it matter/energy being created at the same time as the universe is expanding?
Where's the unlimited source of it? And what is it that "programs" matter or energy into becoming something other than what they already are?

Or is it light the coded energy?
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Are the galaxies being spread apart at the same speed that the universe is expanding?
Or are the galaxies place somewhat static (not relevant to mention/spreading slower than light speed), and it will only be empty space forever in that dark and new places reached by light every second?
Because I don't believe that galaxies or stars can be formed out of empty space, can they?

Or is it matter/energy being created at the same time as the universe is expanding?
Where's the unlimited source of it? And what is it that "programs" matter or energy into becoming something other than what they already are?

Or is it light the coded energy?


Hubble's Law is proportional to distance
they aren't static. they're all moving away from each other (except some that are interlocked by gravity), and I don't understand what you're asking in the second half
no, stars are formed from matter
matter/energy isn't being created
What do you mean unlimited source?
and I don't understand the last question

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Hubble's Law is proportional to distance
they aren't static. they're all moving away from each other (except some that are interlocked by gravity), and I don't understand what you're asking in the second half
no, stars are formed from matter
matter/energy isn't being created
What do you mean unlimited source?
and I don't understand the last question


What and how is matter/energy created non stop? Is it an unlimited creation of matter/energy? Why and how is it an unlimited source of matter/energy? Maybe something/somwhere there's a fountain or entrance door to this universe?

Where is the center of the universe? Because if galaxies are spreading apart like you said and the universe is expanding faster than the light speed, imagine we will NEVER see the universe "end" where its expanding in a timely manner to affirm something about it. Because all the light we see how from those distant places happened billion of years ago.

Just imagine, if our universe is said to be about 14 billion years old, and the light takes billion of years to reach us, then when we look at the universe we are automatically looking at the past. We are looking at thousands, millions, billions years ago.

Maybe the universe is NOTHING like we have always thought it is in the past 200 years.
Maybe it is WAY bigger.
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What and how is matter/energy created non stop? Is it an unlimited creation of matter/energy? Why and how is it an unlimited source of matter/energy? Maybe something/somwhere there's a fountain or entrance door to this universe?

Where is the center of the universe? Because if galaxies are spreading apart like you said and the universe is expanding faster than the light speed, imagine we will NEVER see the universe "end" where its expanding in a timely manner to affirm something about it. Because all the light we see how from those distant places happened billion of years ago.

Just imagine, if our universe is said to be about 14 billion years old, and the light takes billion of years to reach us, then when we look at the universe we are automatically looking at the past. We are looking at thousands, millions, billions years ago.

Maybe the universe is NOTHING like we have always thought it is in the past 200 years.
Maybe it is WAY bigger.


It's not. matter/energy is not being created

That depends on cosmological geometry. If the universe is infinite, there is no center.

Yeah looking further into space is looking backwards into time.

Maybe. Cosmology speculates on the "observable" universe.
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It's not. matter/energy is not being created

That depends on cosmological geometry. If the universe is infinite, there is no center.

Yeah looking further into space is looking backwards into time.

Maybe. Cosmology speculates on the "observable" universe.


Speculating in something that happen billions of years ago is not a very interesting thing to do if not for archeologists ^^
But yes we can learn about the future looking at the past.

Now if matter and energy is not being created, how is the dark being filled with new matter and energy? Or is the dark just dark forever? What about the light that constantly uncovers more dark every second? Light is matter and I don't believe that matter can travel through a space without matter or energy.

Where and what is it causing the expansion of the universe, and if we could reach the point where it is expanding right now, what would it be that limit is to go any further?
What is considered the point where there's no universe and how is it in there that differences it from the dark in the universe?

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