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Jan 15 2012 10:43am
So basically were getting interference from within our galaxy, which is distorting our ability to truly see those other galaxy's, making false positives? P.s. im not the greatest when it comes to astronomy.
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Jan 15 2012 07:33pm
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So basically were getting interference from within our galaxy, which is distorting our ability to truly see those other galaxy's, making false positives? P.s. im not the greatest when it comes to astronomy.


No. We're seeing a CMB (aka CBR, which are Cosmic Microwave Background or Cosmic Background Radiation, respectively) that doesn't show any interference from other galaxies, therefore, that brings up the very likely scenario that what we see in the CMB is simply radiation from the Local Interstellar Medium and not remnant heat from the Big Bang. Which proves the Big Bang wrong. :)

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No. We're seeing a CMB (aka CBR, which are Cosmic Microwave Background or Cosmic Background Radiation, respectively) that doesn't show any interference from other galaxies, therefore, that brings up the very likely scenario that what we see in the CMB is simply radiation from the Local Interstellar Medium and not remnant heat from the Big Bang. Which proves the Big Bang wrong. :)


No, it doesn't. It suggests that there may be a problem with our current understanding of cosmology. It does not disprove any broad category of theories.
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Jan 16 2012 02:50am
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Jan 16 2012 10:11am
doesn't show any interference from other galaxies Oh, Okay so i had it backwards. Also isn't (CMB) a newer cosmological tool and what's your thoughts on Dark Matter.

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No, it doesn't.  It suggests that there may be a problem with our current understanding of cosmology.  It does not disprove any broad category of theories.


If it doesn't prove the big bang wrong then what does it do? If the big bang were correct we would see the interference from other galaxies which would mean that the CMB is spread throughout the known universe nearly uniformly. But we don't, so it's really a portrayal of the local interstellar medium, which is suggested and supported by further studies. If the CMB is not truly the CMB, then the big bang is proven wrong.
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doesn't show any interference from other galaxies Oh, Okay so i had it backwards. Also isn't (CMB) a newer cosmological tool and what's your thoughts on Dark Matter.


CMB is a newer cosmological tool, I believe it was first detected by COBE, and was increased in resolution and finesse by WMAP. I think dark matter is a sham, and that we will never find any dark matter to cover up patches in their gravity-only cosmology. If we include electromagnetism into the happenings of space we find that there is no need for dark matter. There have been particle-in-cell simulations with electromagnetism of galaxies that worked. Thus, gravity only is not what holds together galaxies, it's electromagnetism and gravity.

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No, I just gathered the studies and info. :)
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If it doesn't prove the big bang wrong then what does it do? If the big bang were correct we would see the interference from other galaxies which would mean that the CMB is spread throughout the known universe nearly uniformly. But we don't, so it's really a portrayal of the local interstellar medium, which is suggested and supported by further studies. If the CMB is not truly the CMB, then the big bang is proven wrong.


It suggests there is a flaw in our understanding of cosmology. I'll give you an (almost certainly false) explanation to disprove. Show me that gravitational distortion isn't smoothing out the image so much that we can't tell that there actually are silhouettes.
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