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Oct 24 2011 03:33am
Quote (Trillasecond @ Oct 24 2011 02:44am)
What if at some point nothing ever exists again?

Like it all gets swallowed up by a black hole or something.


well theres no real point to worry about that is there ?
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Oct 24 2011 03:32pm
ITT: jsp user debunks einstein's theories.
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Oct 24 2011 06:39pm
correct me if im mistaken as i very well could be being uneducated on the subject and ignoring the recent observations of breaking the light speed barrier


but hasnt a point of contention always been that einstein could not combine his two theories of relativity because essentially they did not work correctly together to begin with
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Oct 25 2011 03:07am
This is neither new nor too shocking. Instead of trying to 'debunk' 100 years old approximations which where known to be incorrect at latest since the emergence of quantum mechanics, you should rather look into the descriptions of the latest state-of-the-art theories, eg fuzzball in string theory.

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but hasnt a point of contention always been that einstein could not combine his two theories of relativity because essentially they did not work correctly together to begin with

No, the problem was that Einstein was too stiff to accept the inevitable truth that we live in a quantum mechanical world.


This post was edited by rolle on Oct 25 2011 03:14am
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Quote (AEtheric @ Oct 13 2011 11:40am)
According to Special Relativity, infinite densities are forbidden because that would require an infinite energy, or equivalently that a material object can travel at the speed of light in vacuo. This is easily seen as follows. Consider a cuboid rest-mass m0 of sides length x. Let it move with constant rectilinear velocity v in the x-direction. Its mass is given by


m = m-sub-o
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√(1 - v2/c2)



and its volume is given by
V = (x^3)(1 - v2/c2)^1/2.
So the density D of the moving mass is


D = m-sub-o
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x^3(1 - v2/c2)




which is infinite when v = c: but this is forbidden by Special Relativity since no material object can travel at the speed of light in vacuo. So infinite densities are forbidden by Special Relativity. Now the so-called "point-mass" has a finite mass and a zero volume, so that it is infinitely dense, which is what the singularity of the alleged black hole is supposed to be. Thus, if General Relativity permits point-masses it does so in violation of Special Relativity. Yet General Relativity is supposed to be a generalisation of Special Relativity to non-uniform motion. It cannot therefore violate Special Relativity. So if General Relativity is to be consistent with Special Relativity, it cannot permit point-masses, howsoever they are alleged to be formed, despite what Prof. Mr. Krasinski et al. might otherwise and vagariously claim.



Until we can get off this planet and be out in space for long distances there is no way of knowing.
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Oct 25 2011 08:58pm
Since people are still posting in this topic and haven't figured it out yet, the denominator can equal zero without the [1-(v^2 / c^2) ] term equaling zero. That alone is the only fact you need to explode this argument.
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I bet he still thinks the earth is flat.

http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm

No, seriously. People still do. It is all a big conspiracy theory!! :bonk:
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I bet he still thinks the earth is flat.

http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e%5Fdjublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm

No, seriously. People still do. It is all a big conspiracy theory!!  :bonk:


Now imagine, if only for the sake of argument, that the person on top and the person on bottom can both manage to remain attracted to the ground "below" them. What would happen if the person on one side decided to visit the other? Since the man at the North Pole has a different idea of what is down and up (and in fact experiences an opposite pull from the Earth's gravity) than the person at the South Pole does, when the denizen of the frozen Arctic visits his Antarctic counterpart, they will experience gravitational pulls exactly opposite of each other! The human from the North Pole will "fall up", never returning to the ground, and will continue falling forever into the deep void of outer space!

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I bet he still thinks the earth is flat.

http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm

No, seriously. People still do. It is all a big conspiracy theory!!  :bonk:

Someone in the post that I quoted has trouble identifying satire. I will leave the determination of who that person is as an exercise to anyone reading this post of mine.
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Oct 31 2011 02:33pm
Quote (ForsakenNz @ Oct 24 2011 06:39pm)
correct me if im mistaken as i very well could be being uneducated on the subject and ignoring the recent observations of breaking the light speed barrier


but hasnt a point of contention always been that einstein could not combine his two theories of relativity because essentially they did not work correctly together to begin with


the recent observations have been contested, and the experiment is being conducted again compensating for the potential flaws in the last attempt. as it stands, there is no conclusive evidence supporting the theory that neutrinos can travel faster than the speed of light
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