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Jul 23 2011 10:44pm
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"In a universe where time appears to be infinite you‟ll take a finite number of breaths. You‟ll speak a finite number of words. You‟ll see a finite number of blades of grass. You‟ll meet a finite number of people. Every moment of your life that ticks by was the only chance in all of eternity for you to experience that moment. That makes every moment of your life (no matter how mundane it may seem) infinitely rare and thus infinitely valuable.

Despite the infinite value of life, someday you‟ll die. Why? What happens after we die? We don‟t know. We make up explanations about death that make us feel better about it, but the truth of the matter is you don‟t get to decide what happens after you die. What you believe doesn‟t change or prove anything. The only thing believing in an after-death scenario proves is you‟re too weak and afraid to admit your ignorance. You may think you‟re doing yourself a favor by creating an explanation to hide from your fears behind, but ultimately all your self-serving fantasies really accomplish is misleading you in life. Simply putting off worrying about death until the last minute isn‟t going to help you either because you won‟t be able to make the most out of life until you work through the stages of grief over your own mortality. Only then will you be able to soberly accept that you‟re going to die and get on with making the most of the time you have left in a logical, conscious way. In order to accomplish all of those things the wisest course of action is to just admit your ignorance and work within the parameters of the unknown."


This guy just got to me - what he says could also apply to the term 'religion'.
Whats your thoughts?


this was a quote from a book named "Why - A Logical Explanation of Life"


I don't agree with the bold area. Why is it many people figure the only reason other people believe in Life after death (Religion) is from fear and weakness? I think exactly the opposite is more true, that many people choose to toss the possibility of Life after death aside beacause they are actually afraid of that unknown. I mean Really..... if there were nothing after you died, what is there to be afraid of? The suggestion that everyone that has a belief in an afterlife does so because they are afraid, simply is not a logical conclussion. Granted some may do so for fearful reasons, and this is also illogical.

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Jul 23 2011 11:16pm
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I don't agree with the bold area. Why is it many people figure the only reason other people believe in Life after death (Religion) is from fear and weakness? I think exactly the opposite is more true, that many people choose to toss the possibility of Life after death aside beacause they are actually afraid of that unknown. I mean Really..... if there were nothing after you died, what is there to be afraid of?  The suggestion that everyone that has a belief in an afterlife does so because they are afraid, simply is not a logical conclussion. Granted some may do so for fearful reasons, and this is also illogical.


people who accept death as part of natural life aren't afraid of what happens after they are afraid of losing their lives. you have a very poor grasp on the whole situation. the ones you see huddled together pretending like death isn't the end of life and thinking they are going to get a reward after they die is insanity at its finest.

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Jul 24 2011 08:26am
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people who accept death as part of natural life aren't afraid of what happens after they are afraid of losing their lives. you have a very poor grasp on the whole situation. the ones you see huddled together pretending like death isn't the end of life and thinking they are going to get a reward after they die is insanity at its finest.


You make my point exactly. There is no logical fear of death, and suggesting I have a poor grasp on the whole situation from what I posted shows you did not or cannot understand what I wrote. Possible due to your own bias that anyone who believes differently than you can only huddle together suffering from insanity. Sure, there are some Fanatical Types in all walks of life, but to pool everyone who believes in an afterlife in to that narrow view of a tiny minority of the Billions of people with religious beliefs is no different than suggesting every Muslim is a fanatical homocide bomber. That would be just arrogant ignorance at its finest. :P
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Jul 24 2011 09:35am
Quote (FullArcFG @ 24 Jul 2011 04:44)
I don't agree with the bold area. Why is it many people figure the only reason other people believe in Life after death (Religion) is from fear and weakness? I think exactly the opposite is more true, that many people choose to toss the possibility of Life after death aside beacause they are actually afraid of that unknown. I mean Really..... if there were nothing after you died, what is there to be afraid of? The suggestion that everyone that has a belief in an afterlife does so because they are afraid, simply is not a logical conclussion. Granted some may do so for fearful reasons, and this is also illogical.


Being religious in the first place is far from logical-thinking and behaviour and is therefore a sign of ignorance in my book.

Also, claming to know what happens after life without any kind of proof is just stupid.
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Jul 24 2011 07:16pm
Great.
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Jul 24 2011 09:41pm
Quote (FullArcFG @ Jul 24 2011 09:26am)
You make my point exactly. There is no logical fear of death, and suggesting I have a poor grasp on the whole situation from what I posted shows you did not or cannot understand what I wrote. Possible due to your own bias that anyone who believes differently than you can only huddle together suffering from insanity. Sure, there are some Fanatical Types in all walks of life, but to pool everyone who believes in an afterlife in to that narrow view of a tiny minority of the Billions of people with religious beliefs is no different than suggesting every Muslim is a fanatical homocide bomber. That would be just arrogant ignorance at its finest. :P


you said those who accept death do it out of fear of the afterlife which made absolutely no sense. people who accept death as the end of life(what the thread is about) don't sit around making up stories about some magical land they goto when they are dead. people like that don't put thought into something pointless because they are rational enough to realize its not worth thinking about.

actually believing death isn't death is insane. i don't mean that in an insult way i mean that in a clinical way. every last christian who actually believes all that is insane its just a popular version of insanity so its not frowned upon quite like eating your own feces because a voice in your head told you to.

i don't pool all of them together..they do it themselves when they gather and share the same belief.
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