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#11
May 10 2011 09:38am
Electrical cars are fast and clean.
If every car-company in the world focused on the further-development of electric-cars, the cost of such would go down by 20-30%.

Then it would be cheaper, cleaner and loads more fun to buy an electric-car.
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#12
May 10 2011 09:46am
cars can be adapted to run on any hydrogcarbon in theory.

corn is convereted into ethanol which cars can run on.

however you have to grow a shit ton of corn and in the end the biggest problem is thermodynamics.

corn is inferior to gasoline in most ways.

unless there are revolutionary changes in the ability to grow corn in the near future. the alternate fuel sources man uses will not be ethanol distilled from any agricultural crop.

with that said it makes much more sense to pursue more economically viable sources. such as electrical motors. true right now the majority of the electricity in america is produced from coal which is non-renewable. however electricity can be developed from many other sources. the main problem now is not producing electricity. it's getting that electricity to the grid.

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#13
May 10 2011 10:27am
imo we should not be using food for power. there is nothing wrong with the electric car or even hybrid electric car that uses purely electric battery until you run out of power, then gasoline until you can get to an outlet.

go rent "who killed the electric car". -pretty good documentary.

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May 10 2011 08:29pm
Quote (xz-master @ May 10 2011 11:38am)
Electrical cars are fast and clean.
If every car-company in the world focused on the further-development of electric-cars, the cost of such would go down by 20-30%.

Then it would be cheaper, cleaner and loads more fun to buy an electric-car.


yea and how much energy it takes to run a car that runs just on electric not to mention it doesn't work when it rains, gets to hot, gets to cold, or forget to charge. hybrids are awesome except when in snow and rain and mud but whoever invented the pure electric b.s probably lives in someplace with no weather.
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#15
May 10 2011 08:34pm
I personally feel it would be rather interesting to have my hands on one of these cars. In the long run you could save gas etc and money! At the same time tho....Seems like it would be a little unstable in the sence of if your oan out of oil in middle of no where etc...
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#16
May 10 2011 08:38pm
is it so hard to make a prius platform vehicle look good? honestly wtf is this shit with making hybrid cars retarded looking?

back on topic

being as i drive a diesel people always ask why i use regular diesel and not bio-diesel. the answer is my diesels system do not handle bio-diesels without failing prematurely. to make a true bio-diesel vehicle to last a reasonable amount of time it would take a lot of specializing which is a pain in the ass for the everyday driver to do at home. car companies need to make the switch not the drivers.
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#17
May 11 2011 03:18pm
it's only cost effective because of corn subsidies your retarded government hands out
otherwise
Quote (http://www.springerlink.com/content/r1552355771656v0/)
Abstract
Energy outputs from ethanol produced using corn, switchgrass, and wood biomass were each less than the respective fossil energy inputs. The same was true for producing biodiesel using soybeans and sunflower, however, the energy cost for producing soybean biodiesel was only slightly negative compared with ethanol production. Findings in terms of energy outputs compared with the energy inputs were: • Ethanol production using corn grain required 29% more fossil energy than the ethanol fuel produced. • Ethanol production using switchgrass required 50% more fossil energy than the ethanol fuel produced. • Ethanol production using wood biomass required 57% more fossil energy than the ethanol fuel produced. • Biodiesel production using soybean required 27% more fossil energy than the biodiesel fuel produced (Note, the energy yield from soy oil per hectare is far lower than the ethanol yield from corn). • Biodiesel production using sunflower required 118% more fossil energy than the biodiesel fuel produced.


so stop being gay hippies, you're making things worse
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#18
May 11 2011 04:28pm
There are modified diesel engines that can run on vegetable oil-- a guy in my lab drives an old BMW and he gets his gas from restaurants by offering to dispose of their used cooking oil.

That said, current technology doesn't allow vegetable oil to be a truly viable, popular fuel source. The amount of energy and resources you'd need to grow, harvest, and process the corn outweighs the energy you'd get from burning the oil by quite a bit.
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#19
May 11 2011 11:52pm
Quote (atani_frostwulf @ May 10 2011 04:12pm)
Oxigen is not flammable, nor is it a gaze.


i really hope your trolling


Quote (prosaic @ May 12 2011 10:28am)
There are modified diesel engines that can run on vegetable oil-- a guy in my lab drives an old BMW and he gets his gas from restaurants by offering to dispose of their used cooking oil.

That said, current technology doesn't allow vegetable oil to be a truly viable, popular fuel source. The amount of energy and resources you'd need to grow, harvest, and process the corn outweighs the energy you'd get from burning the oil by quite a bit.


this
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#20
May 12 2011 02:16am
Quote (Samapoil @ 10 May 2011 14:24)
Water ( H20 ) as hydrogen and oxygen are two very flammable gazes.


H20 in water form wouldn't combust

H2 (g)+0 combusts and in the reaction it produces water vapor as the temperature is too high and past boiling point of water

so you want to combust hydrogen and oxygen to leave water vapor in the engine to what power a turbine?
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