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Mar 11 2011 02:08pm
Quote (bentherdonethat @ Mar 11 2011 07:02pm)
There's no such thing as free energy. That's a fact. Beliefs don't factor into that.


wtf is coming from that star in our sky huh? closest thing to free energy other than harnessing gravity or something.
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There's no such thing as free energy. That's a fact. Beliefs don't factor into that.


it's called "solar power".....i'm really beginning to think that you have no knowledge what so ever besides just stating your very own facts and statements...
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Mar 11 2011 06:09pm
Quote (frankthetank00 @ Mar 11 2011 02:41am)
wondering if anyones heard of or believes that its real. It's suppposedly a wmd that can be used to create earthquakes/ tsunamis

also wonder what you guys think about Nikola Tesla. Do you think he discovered a way to harness free energy but governments wanted a system to make us pay for everything to keep us working?


haarp is a real military facility in Alaska that can do quite a bit by manipulating the ionosphere in various ways.Tesla did discover, & was also in the middle of building a device to harness free energy until the Morgan bankster pulled out funding after he found out exactly what it could do.
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Mar 12 2011 12:42am
Energy is free right now. Money is just a representation of energy.
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Mar 12 2011 01:22am
its a fact because you say it is? if everything that exists consists of energy how can there not be a way to harness it for free for everyone. We either just don't know efficient enough ways to harness energy or there is a conspiracy to keep it from happening.
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Mar 12 2011 02:23am
Here's what I wrote about HAARP on the PARD sub-forum. It does not go over all the utilites of HAARP, but it does go over one of the many capabilities of HAARP's technology.

Oh btw, this was in response to bentherdonethat, to which he in no way tried to correct me, but simply stated that I was a crazy nut job.

Quote (tdgosu @ Mar 11 2011 09:29pm)
No? I'm talking about scientists that have already succeeded in manipulating animal behavior through radio waves.

One would be Jose Delgado. He was a well renowned  elctrophysicist and wrote a book called Physical Control of the Mind. One of the famous pictures in that book, are ones that contained a charging bull that stopped right in front of him as soon as he turned on a radio frequency that was attuned to the chip in the bulls brain. He would soon go on to discover that, even without the implementation of the chip, you could use the same radio frequencies to control the brain chemistry, without any prior manipulation of the human anatomy.

And if you know anything about HAARP, you would know the capabilities of doing just this. If you want me concrete scientifical evidence, I will gladly present it.

Also, if you don't even know anything of the topic, please refrain from accusing people of being crazy and a conspirator, as this is a topic that has been known in the science community for a long time.




Quote (tdgosu @ Mar 11 2011 11:13pm)
I guess you can compare scientific research to a movie about hippies in the military. That sure does a whole lot in discrediting the man's work. Maybe if you would actually take the time to ponder about how such a technology would be advantageous to a government, you wouldn't be so close minded in the fact that  the government would never abuse something such as HAARP.

Alright, check out the book Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technocratic Era by Zbigniew Brzenski. If you do not know who Zbignew Brzenski is, he was the national security advisor during the President Carter administration. As the title entails, the book goes on to explain how advances in different areas of physics, biology, and nurmerous other fields of science will advance America as a superpower ( No duh, right?). Here's a quote in the book that directly relates to what HAARP is capable of doing, "Accurately timed, artificially excited electronic strokes, could lead to a pattern of oscillations that produce relatively high power levels over certain regions of the Earth. In this way, one could develop a system that would severely impair the brain performance of very large populations, in selected regions, over an extended period". This book was written almost 40 years ago. The knowledge to be capable of doing such things was evident then, and the technology to actually produce these strokes, now exist in the form of HAARP and other programs like HAARP.

If you don't understand how HAARP works, I'll explain it to you in a nutshell. The base of the program consists of an array of antennas that have the capability to focus radio frequency into a concentrated beam to amplify it's energy, similar to how a satellite works. So unlike radio towers, where the radio frequency spreads out and is weakened as it reaches it's limits in terms of distance, you can now concentrate this energy to go farther, and send this energy wherever you would like with the help of the ionosphere. This technology is similar to how a laser concentrates light into a concentrated beam.

So with the understanding of how HAARP can manipulate a wide range of radio frequencies, you need to understand that the body uses electrical signals as well for body function. Electroencephalography, the recording of electrical activity produced by the firing of neurons within the brain, have shown us that external sources of energy can manipulate the functionality of the body's nervous system. And of course, this has already been experimented by scientists such as Jose Delgado, the author of the book in my previous comment. The only thing that you would need to learn, is the pulse rate at which you would need to fire this external energy, to manipulate different parts of the nervous system and brain. With this understanding, you can now see why the HAARP program is so dangerous, and this isn't even accounting for the 20+ other applications of this technology.

Thank you for the link to their official website, but I have already had knowledge of it.
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Mar 12 2011 03:10am
Quote (dothe @ Mar 10 2011 11:50pm)
60th episode -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPJ34nQxrWo


That machine and what they use at HAARP, are completely different fields of science.
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Mar 22 2011 12:21am
I always was very interested in the idea of the tesla coil which is what he thought he could use to harness free energy. This was at the time that they where trying to send the first radio waves across the ocean. Teslas machine was supposed to be able to do that along with what some people think is that tesla also had a idea of a way to use it to harness free energy. However someone from europe someplace was successful in sending the first radio waves across to america jp morgan pulled his funding after that because someone beat him to it. Later it was found the man who sent the first radio wave pics etc was found to have used several patents of tesla and he was later named the founder of sending transcontinental radio waves. I know he did a smaller scale version that supposedly worked but it is still unknown if a large scale version would work or not. The idea is based on the idea of using the earth as the grounder for the electric and all you had to do was have a current connection in a way that people could actually be the conductors however it would not harm people. I don't fully understand the process anymore it was a long time ago when i looked into the mechanics of it so don't take my word on it that that is how it was supposed to work but it something along that line.

I also think there was something about him telling jp morgan after about what he thought he could do and let him finish the research but jp morgan said if he couldn't meter it to distribute it to make profit then what would be the point of it.

don't quote this for sure like i said its been a long time since i have looked at all the different research about him but i think it was something along that lines

i also know the us seized all his documents and his work after he died to review it that there was nothing that would threaten national security and after sent that they didn't see as threatening to national security sent it back to his homeland.

I believe that tesla was a great inventor of man he was already looking in the idea of solar energy etc back then however he was always portrayed as the crazy inventor guy you just stayed away from.


Haarp has allot of military abilities that many people don't even understand in my onion when is ever fucking with our upper atmosphere ever good who could even begin to understand long term consequences to that.

This post was edited by TheRelapse on Mar 22 2011 12:27am
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I always was very interested in the idea of the tesla coil which is what he thought he could use to harness free energy. This was at the time that they where trying to send the first radio waves across the ocean. Teslas machine was supposed to be able to do that along with what some people think is that tesla also had a idea of a way to use it to harness free energy. However someone from europe someplace was successful in sending the first radio waves across to america jp morgan pulled his funding after that because someone beat him to it. Later it was found the man who sent the first  radio wave pics etc was found to have used several patents of tesla and he was later named the founder of sending transcontinental  radio waves. I know he did a smaller scale version that supposedly worked but it is still unknown if a large scale version would work or not. The idea is based on the idea of using the earth as the grounder for the electric and all you had to do was have a current connection in a way that people could actually be the conductors however it would not harm people. I don't fully understand the process anymore it was a long time ago when i looked into the mechanics of it so don't take my word on it that that is how it was supposed to work but it something along that line.

I also think there was something about him telling jp morgan after about what he thought he could do and let him finish the research but jp morgan said if he couldn't meter it to distribute it to make profit then what would be the point of it.

don't quote this for sure like i said its been a long time since i have looked at all the different research about him but i think it was something along that lines

i also know the us seized all his documents and his work after he died to review it that there was nothing that would threaten national security and after sent that they didn't see as threatening to national security sent it back to his homeland.

I believe that tesla was a great inventor of man he was already looking in the idea of solar energy etc back then however he was always portrayed as the crazy inventor guy you just stayed away from.


he was way up in geo thermal energy.
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Mar 22 2011 09:16am
Quote (tdgosu @ Mar 12 2011 04:23am)
Oh btw, this was in response to bentherdonethat, to which he in no way tried to correct me, but simply stated that I was a crazy nut job.

Well, you ARE a crazy nutjob if you think HAARP is a weapon. No amount of reality will sway you from your beliefs, so why bother trying?
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