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Jan 14 2011 01:02am
Quote (Black487 @ Jan 14 2011 06:32am)
You think you know all the evidence there is for the big bang?  You think you can submit information and simply refuse to even review let alone address the information others submit in response to your claims, then continue as if there isn't a objection in existence to your views (I won't even address them as arguments, because those require an actual exchange)?  You think the scientific community is full off bullshit, while at the same time basking in the countless luxuries and benefits from their contributions every single day? 

You agreed with a video that got the absolute fundamentals of the big bang absolutely incorrect.  How can somebody who doesn't even understand the basics of the big bang claim to know more than the greatest, most accomplished scientists of today? 

Based off these facts, if anybody's full of bullshit it's you, and you've just lost any call to an audience or to be taken seriously from anyone who cares about what is and isn't true. 

I sincerely hope you invest in one of these so that the gullible can easily spot you ahead of time. 


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Jan 14 2011 01:36am
The very first sentence in that video is completely wrong. It says that when the big bang happened everything was created out of nothing. The theory doesn't say jack shit about where the big bang came from, or what happened before. It only addresses the development of the universe the few nano seconds after the "beginning". The video doesn't seem to know much about quasars either. It seems to leave out that quasars are the centers of very energetic galaxies, most of them very old and far away. Also... they don't need to be impossibly energetic to the point of breaking the laws of physics as the video seems to claim. The ones we can see are like flashlights pointing in our direction, their energy only points in a narrow field. They are not radiating at the same intensity in all directions.

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the big bang is completely retarded, im not asking u to accept their hypothesis about the plasma universe but at least to realize how screwed up and unscientific the acedmic world really is today. Not sure why but if someone has a PHD haning on their wall it seems to make stupid people believe their bullshit a lot easier.

i already know what ur video is going to say but i cant believe anyone would accept eistien's stupid relativity theory when if the universe followed his laws it would all collapse in on itself, but not only that but when he came to the conclusion that if you follow his laws to the limit it results in a "black hole" the most illogical retarded conclusion of the 20th century and yet it wasn't enough to get him to retract his work
Things that are fucking obviously false:
an object having zero volume and infinite mass (black holes? wtf is that shit)
time slowing down near large mass objects, lol? time is a fucking concept, ideas cannot speed up or slow down
the universe accelerating at more than the speed of light (inflation/ big bang bullshit and misinterupted red shift)
over 90% of the universe being dark matter/energy (aka an eqation on a piece of paper with no evidence, and infact all evidence pointing to the contrary and yet it wasnt enough to sway these arrogant pieces of shit scientists we have these days)

/rage

people are so fucked up they try to force the universe to fit into their stupid ass perceptions instead of looking at the evidence


Same thing with youtube videos apparently...
So i'm guessing you didn't watch it then because it would poke many holes in your preconceived ideas and actually use scientific evidence to refute them.


Black holes are pretty much proven to exist at this point. They certainly do not have an infinite mass as you quite stupidly claimed. I think the word your looking for is density... If you don't think black holes exist then try to come up with a better explanation for the extremely fast speeds of stars in the center of the galaxy that are orbiting around a black hole. If you or one of your pseudoscience hero's can explain this without a black hole then a nobel prize is waiting to be claimed.

Why do you still not believe in the relativity of time. This is a proven theory. Time does indeed slow down at high speeds and in stronger gravity. Go look up GPS satellites and relativity. If these satellites did not account for the few fractions of a second difference in time between them and the surface of the earth they would be off by a couple more KM every day.
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Jan 14 2011 08:45am
Quote (elitepie @ Jan 13 2011 08:44pm)
the big bang is completely retarded, im not asking u to accept their hypothesis about the plasma universe but at least to realize how screwed up and unscientific the acedmic world really is today. Not sure why but if someone has a PHD haning on their wall it seems to make stupid people believe their bullshit a lot easier.

i already know what ur video is going to say but i cant believe anyone would accept eistien's stupid relativity theory when if the universe followed his laws it would all collapse in on itself, but not only that but when he came to the conclusion that if you follow his laws to the limit it results in a "black hole" the most illogical retarded conclusion of the 20th century and yet it wasn't enough to get him to retract his work
Things that are fucking obviously false:
an object having zero volume and infinite mass (black holes? wtf is that shit)
time slowing down near large mass objects, lol? time is a fucking concept, ideas cannot speed up or slow down
the universe accelerating at more than the speed of light (inflation/ big bang bullshit and misinterupted red shift)
over 90% of the universe being dark matter/energy (aka an eqation on a piece of paper with no evidence, and infact all evidence pointing to the contrary and yet it wasnt enough to sway these arrogant pieces of shit scientists we have these days)

/rage

people are so fucked up they try to force the universe to fit into their stupid ass perceptions instead of looking at the evidence


It would seem you have never looked at the evidence yourself. Thank you for the lol though.
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Jan 14 2011 09:22am
funny.
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Jan 14 2011 01:00pm
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It would seem you have never looked at the evidence yourself. Thank you for the lol though.


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Jan 14 2011 04:06pm
sry cant watch video at work, but if you actually read cosmology magazines/arcticles, more and more scientists are abandoning the big bang theory. it is really starting to look like the universe is infinite (spatially, and in regard to time and matter). red shift is way off, speed of light is no longer considered constant as einstein thought (different ends of spectrums travel at different speeds! what?), etc. realizing we can only see ancient galaxies when looking at great distances (their light is still "on the way" though most of it will never reach us, ever for all of eternity [if you believe in cosmic expansion theory]) we dont know anything about the current condition of the other side of the universe. through experimentation they (we?) have all but disproven big bang theory. trust me i was extremely reluctant to accept this, but you have to truly question your beliefs in order to truly believe in them.
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Jan 14 2011 08:52pm
i just wanna know why all you people support someone else's idea, wtf are these scientists blowing u? why do u just push their bullshit agendas, as i said, i dont expect u to believe what i say, but at least open ur damn eyes and dont just suck up their bullshit like a sponge

luckily i think most people here will live long enough to see this stuff overturned, but its going to take a long time, becuase the young generation is growing up brainwashed in these 100 year old bullshit theories.

The arrogance of humans to think we could come up with a complete understanding of the universe in a mere 100 years, how ignorant we are.

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Jan 14 2011 09:04pm
Quote (elitepie @ Jan 14 2011 09:52pm)
i just wanna know why all you people support someone else's idea, wtf are these scientists blowing u? why do u just push their bullshit agendas, as i said, i dont expect u to believe what i say, but at least open ur damn eyes and dont just suck up their bullshit like a sponge



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luckily i think most people here will live long enough to see this stuff overturned, but its going to take a long time, becuase the young generation is growing up brainwashed in these 100 year old bullshit theories.

The Big Bang Theory's nowhere near 100 years old yet, but it'll likely never be completely "overturned." It will be modified as new evidence becomes available, similar to how Newton's Theory of Gravity was modified when new evidence was made available, and now Einstein's General Relativity is currently the most accurate theory on gravity.

For the record, would you prefer the young generation follow the old generation and be brainwashed by 2000 year old bullshit religions?

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The arrogance of humans to think we could come up with a complete understanding of the universe in a mere 100 years, how ignorant we are.

While I can't say for certain, I'm willing to bet you won't find a single credible scientist who claims complete understanding of the universe. At all. No one's saying we understand everything. We've made leaps and bounds in the past 100 years (thank you, computer!) and we'll make even more discoveries in the next hundred years. I'm happy for you that you were born in an age where your thoughts aren't yet completely retarded, because there are things still yet to be explained.
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Jan 14 2011 09:08pm
the big bang didnt happen, a huge rock golem just randomly vomitted one day, and the universe and all organisms are the contents of its stomach, and us humans were the viruses!
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Jan 15 2011 02:29pm
Quote (bentherdonethat @ Jan 14 2011 08:04pm)
http://i.imgur.com/m8sd3.png


The Big Bang Theory's nowhere near 100 years old yet, but it'll likely never be completely "overturned." It will be modified as new evidence becomes available, similar to how Newton's Theory of Gravity was modified when new evidence was made available, and now Einstein's General Relativity is currently the most accurate theory on gravity.

For the record, would you prefer the young generation follow the old generation and be brainwashed by 2000 year old bullshit religions?


While I can't say for certain, I'm willing to bet you won't find a single credible scientist who claims complete understanding of the universe. At all. No one's saying we understand everything. We've made leaps and bounds in the past 100 years (thank you, computer!) and we'll make even more discoveries in the next hundred years. I'm happy for you that you were born in an age where your thoughts aren't yet completely retarded, because there are things still yet to be explained.


the big bang is just an extention of the biblical creation story, and since a lot of people have a christian background they find it easy to convert over to the religion of big bang, i mean, it was invented by a catholic priest
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