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Jan 3 2011 08:42pm
Quote (Irwinjs22 @ Jan 3 2011 08:15pm)
I have personally experienced a ghost encounter, since then I have been extremely interested in this subject. As far as the tape recorders go, the human voice cannot speak in the white noise frequency that the voices are recorded, nor can we hear them. I did some research and I was unable to dig up any software that can allow someone to edit the frequency that the data is stored on but I guess that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I think most believers have had a personal experience at one point in time or another.

Humans can generally hear between 20 and 20,000 Hz, and adults tend to lose the top 8-10 kHz of that spectrum, though those are very high pitches (like the 'ring tone' that only kids can hear) and are outside of the normal speaking range.

Now, in signal processing/sampling, you NEED to have a device that's sampling (i.e. taking measurements) at more than twice the nyquist frequency (highest frequency contained in the signal that you're sampling). So, for example, if the highest frequency of this "white noise" is 40 kHz, then you need to be sampling at at LEAST 80 kHz. So if the device used to record the sounds wasn't sampling fast enough, no program can possibly recover the data there.

There are matlab programs that you can quickly and easily write to do a fourier transform on a sound file to find out what frequencies are present in a signal, but again, a fourier transform won't detect frequences too high to have been recorded due to the nyquist frequency.
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Jan 3 2011 08:47pm
i believe things that can be shown with relatively no ambiguity

this rules out god, ghosts, big foot, the flying spegetti monster, santa, the toothfairy, etc
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Jan 3 2011 08:52pm
Quote (Toothfariy @ Jan 3 2011 09:47pm)
i believe things that can be shown with relatively no ambiguity

this rules out god, ghosts, big foot, the flying spegetti monster, santa, the toothfairy, etc

I have on good authority that the Toothfariy exists, but otherwise that's a good rule in science. If there is a lot of evidence that X is true and there is no evidence that X is not true, then X is worth believing until otherwise disproven.
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Jan 4 2011 05:52pm
yes

and someday you all will too :)
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Jan 5 2011 09:37am
There is no such thing as Unnatural,If it exists its natural .
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Jan 5 2011 11:15am
Not in the faintest or foggiest.
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Jan 5 2011 01:50pm
Quote (ExtraThing @ Jan 5 2011 03:37pm)
There is no such thing as Unnatural,If it exists its natural .


no there is such things that unnatural if its wasnt made in nature, then its UN natural. anything manufactured
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Jan 5 2011 01:51pm
I got a question how does something become "super" natural, versus just being natural? Wouldnt something being creater than natural have to have been created or had a creator.
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Jan 5 2011 05:54pm
Quote (P_Pepa @ Jan 5 2011 03:50pm)
no there is such things that unnatural if its wasnt made in nature, then its UN natural. anything manufactured


I think he meant to say supernatural instead of unnatural.

Quote (P_Pepa @ Jan 5 2011 03:51pm)
I got a question how does something become "super" natural, versus just being natural? Wouldnt something being creater than natural have to have been created or had a creator.


It has to be outside our laws of nature and the realm of potential scientific understanding.

In all honesty, "supernatural" doesn't even exist.
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Jan 6 2011 08:35am
it is a possibility
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