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Dec 10 2010 12:59am
Quote (Hac @ Dec 9 2010 07:06pm)
yeah exactly. nicely put :)
wat puzzles me is y are theses instances where a 4d object would pass thru our realm and would be seen not happen often enough?. in the book, other than aliens, it doesnt say of any phenomenon of a 4d object passing through our 3d world. or more shortly put my question is " Shouldn't there be often appearances of weird objects in our space and leave it without a trace, if there really was a 4th spatial dimension?"


the way i understand it there are but most people arent able to see it. our eyes are only set up to see the 3rd dimension but we have a 3rd eye in our brain. the pineal gland has color receptors and is activated by light. it is suppose to be our link to the spirit world/4th dimension.

i have a feeling platos allegory of the cave was hinting towards this. the shadows on the wall are only an illusion of something taking place outside of our perception the way everything is connected and one in higher dimensions
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Real/Not Real?
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(I'm currently reading a book (Extra-Dimensional Universe: Where the paranormal becomes the normal) that has to do with a higher spatial dimension in the world explains all paranormal things like apparition, clairvoyance, telepathy, religion and other strange phenomenon.  This book describes the fourth dimension as being the next step in human evolution to recognize this dimension with a sense we have been building up all throughout the ages.  Religions have been written for us to advance into that way of life to go into the higher sense of the true reality of our universe because it is not only 3 dimensional but that is what we see so far.  A fourth dimension would basically remove time, everything is in the moment of NOW.  the past present and future are all laid in front of you.  Everything is connected.  All the people in the world along with every piece of matter is connected.  Similar to a tree having a cross-sectional plane along the top of it making all of its branches small units in a 2d world.  in a 2d world those units would look seperate but in a higher dimension they are all connected. Ive used the example below with the tree.)

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The Aymara in the Andes consider the past in front and the future behind. The past is known, so it is spoken about as ahead. The future is unknown, so it is spoken about as behind.

Many indigenous cultures have cyclical conceptions of time, rather than linear. Time is connected to place in many of them. And some even consider that humans must actively maintain harmony of cycles. We are participants rather than riders. Chaos comes into play as well, though not in a manner of disorder, but in a manner of change. Because of chaos and human interaction, cycles are not necessarily uniform either. Cycles could be lunar, solar, migratory, seasonal, plant life, animal life, human life, and so on. There are numerous connections between points in corresponding cycles.
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Dec 10 2010 06:10am
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The Aymara in the Andes consider the past in front and the future behind.  The past is known, so it is spoken about as ahead.  The future is unknown, so it is spoken about as behind. 

Many indigenous cultures have cyclical conceptions of time, rather than linear.  Time is connected to place in many of them. And some even consider that humans must actively maintain harmony of cycles.  We are participants rather than riders.  Chaos comes into play as well, though not in a manner of disorder, but in a manner of change.  Because of chaos and human interaction, cycles are not necessarily uniform either.  Cycles could be lunar, solar, migratory, seasonal, plant life, animal life, human life, and so on.  There are numerous connections between points in corresponding cycles.


yo wats the name of the movie on ur sig.. been looking for it all over for like years lol..
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Dec 10 2010 10:52am
Quote (Hac @ Dec 9 2010 09:06pm)
yeah exactly. nicely put :)
wat puzzles me is y are theses instances where a 4d object would pass thru our realm and would be seen not happen often enough?. in the book, other than aliens, it doesnt say of any phenomenon of a 4d object passing through our 3d world.  or more shortly put my question is  " Shouldn't there be often appearances of weird objects in our space and leave it without a trace, if there really was a 4th spatial dimension?"

Well if there's a 4th spatial dimension, then any object that we're seeing here in our 3-D world just has the same coordinate in the 4th dimension, in the same way every point on the XY plane has the same Z coordinate (z = 0). Again, think of it as if you're in an infinite 2-D plane, unaware of the third dimension. There could be things happening constantly in other parts of 3-space, and their third dimensional coordinate can be nowhere near your constant, unchanging third dimensional coordinate. It's possible that in 4-space, there are a whole mess of universes that are all as large as our universe, but we'll never intersect because our 4th coordinate is too far apart. Not an easy idea to wrap your head around though, I'll admit.

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yo wats the name of the movie on ur sig.. been looking for it all over for like years lol..

That's the Rocky Horror Picture Show.
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Well if there's a 4th spatial dimension, then any object that we're seeing here in our 3-D world just has the same coordinate in the 4th dimension, in the same way every point on the XY plane has the same Z coordinate (z = 0). Again, think of it as if you're in an infinite 2-D plane, unaware of the third dimension. There could be things happening constantly in other parts of 3-space, and their third dimensional coordinate can be nowhere near your constant, unchanging third dimensional coordinate. It's possible that in 4-space, there are a whole mess of universes that are all as large as our universe, but we'll never intersect because our 4th coordinate is too far apart. Not an easy idea to wrap your head around though, I'll admit.


That's the Rocky Horror Picture Show.


yea true. cool
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Dec 12 2010 12:28pm
Quote (hotdogski @ Dec 10 2010 04:10am)
yo wats the name of the movie on ur sig.. been looking for it all over for like years lol..


My sig rotates. I have them for The Rocky Horror Picture Show (as was mentioned), Deer Hunter, and Johnny Got His Gun.
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Dec 12 2010 03:53pm
according to our current string theory model there must be 10 spatial dementions. try to envision that.
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Dec 12 2010 07:13pm
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according to our current string theory model there must be 10 spatial dementions. try to envision that.


isnt it 11?
yea i think il need 10 more brains to envision that lol
or maybe a trillion years of evolution might help us get to that higher sense of time/space
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Dec 13 2010 11:37am
we already there? and even mainstream scientists prefer that there's 9 dimensions :blink:
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Dec 13 2010 06:19pm
Quote (theprinceofsmooth @ Dec 13 2010 01:37pm)
we already there? and even mainstream scientists prefer that there's 9 dimensions  :blink:


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