lol it's just like a thought that i decided to put together and i'm not assuming that my system of beliefs is the only correct one, i mean, i can understand why you choose not to be openminded, i just think that maybe...there is better out there if you choose to be openminded, because nature is openminded

my argument is basically that we need to spend more time studying life than making shit that we dont need just so that we can have money and live a "better" life

OH this is also what i think:

women are smarter than men.
men crave power
men suppress women because they know that women know more about life
reason why women carry the child?

This post was edited by MOMOtheflyingLEMUR on Nov 10 2010 01:06pm

i agree with your basic argument. but the fact is we will never be able to continue as we are till we do away with our current society. follow the money and you will find that a small group owns over half the world. or society is setup in a capitalistic nature with greedy fuckers on top sucking the life out of everyone else. the US political system is a total shame anymore.

thats why our society and world is stagnating and we cant move forward till some things are changed.

Keep going fulfilling you needs.

Wait, hold on. In writing this paper you specifically state that "the scientist" is wrong to be performing science for the purpose of creating things or making money. Then you say he should instead be open-minded and consider your belief instead, that the scientist should be studying something that you think is more fruitful. Do you think you're being open-minded in stating that? And in asking this, I am in no way saying your belief system is wrong, so you have no reason to assume I'm not open-minded.

things wont change in time because we've pushed ourselves too deep into this sin or disease.
but we can do our best to change it so that it's not as big of a mess for future life.
i think the only way we can change it is to prove that God exists, or prove the reason for our existence

nope i have no reason to believe you are not open-minded. hmm i am not being open-minded by stating that, but that is because i'm stating an opinion. however, it isnt studying something that i think is more fruitful. it's studying nature, which is infinately smarter than we are. what i am saying is that we are going down a bad path (i dont want to say wrong because there is no right or wrong, there is only right [in the case of decision-making, because who is to say that you are wrong unless they prove that you are, and we cant prove that we are wrong because we dont know the absolute outcome until the end of the world hits us in the face], however, there is good and bad) because we choose to study things and expand our research to gain more knowledge..but the knowledge we are gaining isnt bennefitting all of life (and here, my proof is all the shitty things happening in the world)

so maybe the bible has a point about adam and the apple? i mean, all of it either did exist, or is an interpretation of what existed , either way, it existed

Shitty things have been happening in the world since long before man existed. Science didn't cause it, and even if we blow ourselves into oblivion, Earth is going to keep on chugging right along without us until it gets swallowed by the sun in a few billion years. As for nature, it's neither smarter than us nor dumber than us. Nature is what it is: it's there. It doesn't have a level of intelligence because nature doesn't have a conscious.

And learning in and of itself is not intrinsically good nor bad. Nuclear energy has the ability to destroy us, yes, but it also has the ability to greatly improve the planet. What we, as a species, do with it is up to us.

okay sorry i'll clarify myself, shitty things have been happening to the world at a faster pace?, and who is to say nature doesnt have a conscious? if we have a conscious than all forms of life probably does. why cant it be that simple?
i said that nature contains an infinate amount of energy..idk if this is true or not but i am CONVINCED . because if it doesnt, how else would you explain the big bang? and where there is energy there is the mind? because
a mind is what contains the energy? and energy = intelligence?

without the mind, we cant control our body right? and without energy we cant live right?
so the mind is required for us to live? and the mind contains our intelligence? so energy can be related to intelligence?
so maybe, maybe everything that is alive has intelligence? what if everything that has energy has intelligence? so there's a reason why atoms have energy? i mean they know to keep balance right? maybe thats what we really need..balance

yes balance is what we need and balance is nature.

your starting to think to hard bro. things can be overanalyzed.

no, i think..i think

that nature created this image of God for us to learn and understand life, and try to change our ways.
like...maybe tahts why the bible hasnt exist for that long, whereas life has existed much much longer
plants are much much smarter than us, they live to benefit all life. whereas we live to benefit ourselves.
maybe nature wanted to give us signs but none of us could interpret it clearly, and that is why we have been veering off course for a long time
maybe thats why we are only in the year 2010, when we technically have been alive for much longer?
and this is why i was thinking..that maybe the reason for our existence is to benefit all life? which we have not been doing, because we are too intelligent for our own good.
(and to benefit life is to balance it right?)