I believe this aswell I wish it was different tho, makes life so pointless when you think about it from a rational standpoint :/

I like to think of the world as a tank (container) with a hole in the side. We are all like water particles being poured in. Anything remarkable that we brought with us is filtered out and stays in the tank and everything else comes out the side once we have cycled through the tank long enough.

If you give something to the world, it will stay with the world. Your whole life is yours to do what you want with. You can leave something behind (research, art) or you can just say fuck it.

If no one was erased, then everyone would be wherever it is they end up. Things would be a little crowded. It's best to let the world filter things out.

The only way for life to even be called life, there has to be death. The way I see it, the more meaningful death is, the more meaningful life is. Being erased completely and never processing a single thought or exercising a single action again sounds like the worst thing that could happen to anyone.

If death were less shitty, life might very well be shittier.

You have to be careful with that belief of yours because if you are wrong, there will be no second chance after death. The fact that our mind do exist should imply the possiblity of other things to exist that are beyond our ability to reach or prove. Science can only prove things that are already within our reach or in our own dimension. We cannot come into contact with a greater dimension than our own because we are limited within our third dimension. If you simply do not believe in spiritual things because they cannot be proven within scientific means, you're limiting yourself and risk a lot. What if hell does exist? You won't have a second chance after death if it turns out you were wrong about your beliefs.

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If it WAS God who gave me a brain, I would expect him to want me to use it. If there is a God, I am certain enough that he isn't the exact same depiction as the Christian God or Allah, or any other specific man-made fairy tale.

As far as limitations and spiritual beliefs, I see Buddhism as different that religions like Christianity in that is isn't mandating the way you live, it isn't a dictation of what every man should do.

Personally, I think the Holy Bible is one big crock of shit that was fabricated to enforce morals out of fear and promise of reward, and to provide answers and solutions when rational means were just not possible at the time.


I CANNOT say there is nothing of a higher power, but I will say if there is, it's something that we cannot conceive of in its entirety. To say you know what God is exactly and what he wants to do is just absolutely ridiculous, illogical, arrogant - you name it. It's wrong.

So I am perfectly fine carrying on with my beliefs. I believe there is a next to nothing chance of there being a hell and me going to it because I didn't believe the book. A benevolent God who loves me wouldn't do that to me for using the exact logic he gave me, would he?

This post was edited by Serdra on Mar 7 2010 03:15am

If you've accepted Jesus into your life then you will go to heaven, otherwise you will go to hell.

What if hell does exist? well, the chances of you picking the right god out of tens of thousands of them that are believed to exist by the many religions of this world are next to nothing, so my chances of going to hell are about the same as yours if hell did exit.

Also, don't give me any "the bible's god is the real god because it says so" b/c then I will simply lol.

Right - Like I said.

No one can rightfully say what God is and what he wants from us.

All I am doing is using my mind to the best of my ability to discern for myself how I should be living. I don't see why I should even follow any religion at all Most of them are very obvious fabrications, others are philosophical based and imaginative (Basic philosophies are good but they go too far with their imaginations) Example: Taoism


Death is one of the most common occurring things that we know little about. We know more about Supernovas.

What we do know is this:


Biologically the body, including the brain (which is the mind without electroactivity) Is decomposed, or subject to nature, no longer sustainable. Pure Chemistry at work.

There is no recorded evidence of conscious reincarnation.

All humans and the vast overwhelming majority of animals die.

Death is an irreversible process (other than a few very specific exceptions)

There has been no concrete evidence or even eye witness of afterlife. No, seeing the light at the end of the tunnel doesn't count.

There has been no definite evidence of a spirit, or entity from a once living human. ie; Poltergeists, Ghosts, etc.



I probably just opened up a can of worms with the last one. I have been with people who claim to have seen a ghost where I have seen nothing, and then someone told me it was because the ghost didn't WANT me to see it. Case in point; Eyewitness accounts mean nothing.

This post was edited by Serdra on Mar 7 2010 12:40pm

HOLY FUCK U GUYS ARE SMART

I've been to many different churches (banned from a couple lol) and what not and the only movement who made sense to me was Gnosticism i don't know if you are familiar with it, but your reasoning sounds very much like their beliefs, basically they believe that the human brain or the human itself has a great capability to do extraordinary things not only technologically but also spiritually. I have been to a couple of seminars and they talk about stuff from astrology to psychology, anyway, the only thing we can say for certain is: since we can't know what is like, we will find out once it's time.



This post was edited by hotdogski on Mar 8 2010 06:33am