Science cannot yet prove this.

Yes, a couple philosophers thought that in the 18th century... It's also a favourite discussion topic.
But since our universe is based on random events, it is quite unpredictable. Random means that at least two outcomes for one cause are possible. Randomness exists on every level from stars, to dice to electrons. There is a famous Einstein quote, where he finds this very fact quite ironic. We live in a universe where one cause can have more than one possible effect, maybe because conditions can never be the same.

Free will works basically like this, our encounters and ideas are sometimes random and we also make somewhat random choices about them. However a lot of stuff is hardwired into us via genes, upbringing, habits, peer pressure which makes free will decisions a rather rare occurrence.

But if you make a decision and always make a rational choice, then you would act like any other rational person would. Free doesn't mean original or spontaneous. Free means - free from influence of someone elses will, like the "will" or rather the hardwiring of your genes to procreate for instance.

what he is saying is based on physics that a chemical reaction takes place and creates a response, so to a sense what we do is predetermined much like computer script for example.

if. i see a dog execute. "hello boy."
else. i dont see a dog. execute. "carry on walking"

so here we see that in a computer program it has two ways to go, if it sees a dog it will say hello, otherwise it will carry on walking, that is the basics of what he is saying that a reaction takes place based upon what we experience and we will use previous experience to execute a function that our body already has stored and is predetermined to a degree. what he says does make sense to a degree because a chemical reaction will dictate our next action although it is purely based on physics and if you put the link in that was posted in my previous post and here http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2009/10/sloppy_dualism_on_bad_astronom.php it doesnt take into account the fact that physics is based on what is physical and there are other dimensions within the physical that could affect what happens.
and yes korb has a point.

This post was edited by cookitagain on Nov 18 2009 03:22pm

see also we can determine this with the theory
if. i dont believe what he says execute. it was the will of the force that you posted this.
else. i do believe what he says execute. oh yes good theory
thats what this post is meant to express but its a very two dimensional way of thinking of it and doesnt express many variables

This post was edited by cookitagain on Nov 18 2009 03:31pm

That's not what I was saying at all, thank you very much.

omg you got 2 brain cells to rub together??? work it out kid and read again.i might have quoted you but simply to use you as an example. i think this kind of topic is lost on you and science and technology isnt the place you should be hanging around

Learn some basic grammar before determining whether I have a place here, thanks.

So u had no choice but to create a multi and post a topic about free will because of chemical reactions in ur brain?
I would imagine by finding out free will not existing, it could potentially affect an organisms life greatly.
But we do understand cause and effect...


you're a fuckin tard.

ya, but where the fuck did u learn to say "Hello boy" when you saw a dog? And you don't make that execution everytime u see a dog.
I could make a choice to lay in bed all day and skip all my classes... doesn't make it predetermined.
If everything is predetermined then you are also claiming no one should take fault for anything.

screenshot or it didnt happen