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Sep 24 2009 05:50pm
Quote (Technicity @ Thu, Sep 24 2009, 03:44pm)
Yeah thats what I'm saying everything else but those four were created over time like life on earth


oooh ok i thought you ment gravity has always been.. which may very well be... we can never know that... the theories i have suggest gravity has always been
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There is no actual purpose of life, what we call time is irrelevant. at one point our conceivable 'universe' was made up of the 4 natural powers (gravity, electromagnetism, weak and strong nuclear powers)

a split second before the big bang our universe as we know it was a bubble a fraction the size of an atom. before the 'bang' gravity broke off from this tiny EXTREMELY hot bubble and created 'inflation' which seeded the whole universe with gas's (which would turn into the 1st stars) the inflation was soo quick it was faster then the speed of light. the way this was possible is because since gravity broke off 1st, the rule that nothing can go faster then the speed of light didnt exist yet. fractions of a second after gravity broke off, so did the other natural powers, which cooled the universe by half. the spreaded gases caused by the inflation slowly (from the center where the 'big bang' happened) stars would form and the left over gas/dust particals came together to creat planets moons and all other comets and everything else floating around in each solar system.


two things were created after the big bang, because we dont ACTUALLY know what these things are scientists call them dark energy and dark matter.

Dark energy is basicly the power admitted from the 'bang' it constantly keeps the universe expanding.

Dark matter is an invisible mass, more massive then any partical we can see. dark matter is the mass that keeps galaxies in check (instead of them expanding themselves) it also keeps the universe from expanding too quickly. think of it as a net made of rubberbans surrounding the whole universe.. the more dark energy pushs out the more stretched out the dark matter becomes.. soon the universe will expand passed the limits of the dark matter and we will be so far from the 'middle' of the universe that there will be no heat and everything will freeze.


this all proves there is no 'purpose of life' we are more of a science project in a never ending beaker... the real question is... who is the scientist? and is this the only beaker? saddly something human kind will never know...


How was there ever a period where the speed of light law didn't apply?
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Sep 24 2009 05:57pm
because when gravity broke off... the other 3 forces of nature were still stuck in this tiny universe (i mind you this period of time was a fraction of a second) the laws of nature as we know them now werent the same...


this is actually a proven fact..

its hard to explain for me... but ill try :)

so... the way we know this is because with a new satellite with a telescope that picks up radiation, they can see the universe as it was in like ... less then a million years after the big bang (i cnat remember the actual #) the fact that we can see this proves that all of the light admited from the "bang" STILL hasnt reached us... the only way that could be is if at 1 time the gases/matter that make up our galaxy was pushed WAAAY out farther then the light admited... i hope that answers your question... if you want i can search youtube for the source of my information
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Sep 24 2009 06:54pm
iso your thought on how the "bubble" was created...and btw time is relevant. don't try to disprove Einstein.
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Quote (Gatsuuga @ Thu, Sep 24 2009, 04:54pm)
iso your thought on how the "bubble" was created...and btw time is relevant. don't try to disprove Einstein.


i have nooo idea about how the bubble was made... in EVERY theory there is that singularity of how anything at all became to exist...

time... is human perception... thats it... PERIOD


time was 'invented' only when humans thought of it..

if you want to go farther then that... time would have never started and will never end going in a straight line..

we only can perceive time for as long as we live...

meaning.. you are born in year 1 you die in year 20.. YOUR perception of time is only that 20 years you were alive...

because time never started and will never end, there is no time.. time is just perceived moments.. i really dont know how to explain it more..

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Sep 25 2009 12:59am
Quote (bryman49 @ Thu, Sep 24 2009, 06:15pm)
gravity was created when the universe was.. all  4 natural powers were.


This would indicate, you really didn't do much Scientific research.
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This would indicate, you really didn't do much Scientific research.


explain? did you read the full topic?

everything i said wasnt jsut like i pulled it out of my ass.. it comes from watching my favorite show that iv seen the 1st season and most the 2nd (the 1st explains everything i talked about)
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Sep 25 2009 05:37am
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explain? did you read the full topic?

everything i said wasnt jsut like i pulled it out of my ass.. it comes from watching my favorite show that iv seen the 1st season and most the 2nd (the 1st explains everything i talked about)


what show is that
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Sep 25 2009 09:28am
Quote (Thrust @ Fri, Sep 25 2009, 03:37am)
what show is that


the universe on the history channel ^^ some how i got both full seasons on my computer :O i wonder how that happened :P

the season 1 finally was simply mind blowing... took the whole 1st season and put it together to explain how the universe was made..

my friends make fun of me sooo much for being so interested in it... thats why i have to come here to talk about it with ppl who are deep enough to think about such things
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Sep 25 2009 03:08pm
Quote (bryman49 @ Thu, Sep 24 2009, 05:23am)
There is no actual purpose of life, what we call time is irrelevant. at one point our conceivable 'universe' was made up of the 4 natural powers (gravity, electromagnetism, weak and strong nuclear powers)

a split second before the big bang our universe as we know it was a bubble a fraction the size of an atom. before the 'bang' gravity broke off from this tiny EXTREMELY hot bubble and created 'inflation' which seeded the whole universe with gas's (which would turn into the 1st stars) the inflation was soo quick it was faster then the speed of light. the way this was possible is because since gravity broke off 1st, the rule that nothing can go faster then the speed of light didnt exist yet. fractions of a second after gravity broke off, so did the other natural powers, which cooled the universe by half. the spreaded gases caused by the inflation slowly (from the center where the 'big bang' happened) stars would form and the left over gas/dust particals came together to creat planets moons and all other comets and everything else floating around in each solar system.


two things were created after the big bang, because we dont ACTUALLY know what these things are scientists call them dark energy and dark matter.

Dark energy is basicly the power admitted from the 'bang' it constantly keeps the universe expanding.

Dark matter is an invisible mass, more massive then any partical we can see. dark matter is the mass that keeps galaxies in check (instead of them expanding themselves) it also keeps the universe from expanding too quickly. think of it as a net made of rubberbans surrounding the whole universe.. the more dark energy pushs out the more stretched out the dark matter becomes.. soon the universe will expand passed the limits of the dark matter and we will be so far from the 'middle' of the universe that there will be no heat and everything will freeze.


this all proves there is no 'purpose of life' we are more of a science project in a never ending beaker... the real question is... who is the scientist? and is this the only beaker? saddly something human kind will never know...


The dark energy you're talking about is correct but the dark matter I think you've got totally wrong.
First, the dark matter isn't any kind of matter. It's just a name people came up with cuz it seems to have a mass.
Second, since we know that matter is only ~20% of all the mass out in the universe, dark matter is only a name for all the other ~80% that we cannot explain yet. AND it seems that dark matter has no effect on matter att all, and I'm very curios where you've got all this info about dark matter from?
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