Looks like it treats aether as a fluid in a structural account that unifies forces. I may read up on it, but initially I'm curious about how it would account for gravity and how it would do in terms of mechanical/functional explanations of the universe is pretty unclear to me at a glance. Maybe that's because it's not really about that. I think it has some interest because it avoids the need for higher dimension proposals or even some kind of "loop theory", but then again the troubles those field theories were dealing with were in part due to issues related to understanding gravity, and especially in terms of fitting the graviton into any unification theory that incorporates electromagnetism. Does this unified force theory being proposed meet up with the basic questions that Jazz_Thing noted? It's a pretty wild theory and I'm interested to find out more about it. It sounds a bit odd at the outset, but then again that's because aether theories were already pooped on a long time ago. Maybe round #2 will be much more interesting.

According to the Aether Physics Model dark matter is matter that's not encapsulated in an aether unit, and therefore does not have any electrostatic or strong charge. What exactly do you mean by what's the relationship between dark matter and gravity? We all know that dark matter exerts gravitational force.

I'm glad that you noted that the aether is fluid. It must be fluid, as it must drag along with massive bodies rather than penetrate them. Everyone touts the Michelson-Morley experiment as evidence as the aether doesn't exist, but that experiment only showed evidence that there was no aether drift flowing through the earth, and that the speed of light is constant in all directions. It does have 'higher' dimensions, though, and a 5-dimensional coordinate system will have to be developed. Rather than space-time, which is one dimension of time and 3 dimensions of length, what the Aether Physics Model proposes is space-resonance, which is three dimensions of length and two orthogonal dimensions of frequency. I imagine the reason why he proposes this is because the aether unit constant itself has two dimensions of frequency within it. Supposedly, if a 5-dimensional coordinate system is developed, then rather than describing the path an electron takes as a wave spread out through space, and its location as a probability, its path will be described deterministically.

I think the problem with most of those extra dimensional theories is because they're trying to make Einstein's general relativity fit into quantum mechanics, which it most likely won't. Even with string theory, it's an incredibly complicated theory that leads to satisfactory results, but yet none of it's predictions are testable (at least not yet).

Even I am skeptical of this theory, though, as it makes some pretty alien claims, like how the electron has strong charge.

How does the 5 dimensional field propose to bypass the Hiesenberg Uncertainty principle, in relation towards the path of an electron?

I'm just trying to figure out more information lol .

It does away with the heisenberg uncertainty principle by saying that the position and the momentum can be known with certainty and deterministically. It's the coordinate system that allows this to be done. How that coordinate system will be developed or will work is beyond me.

Please keep this thread updated, a 5 dimensional coordinate system would be very intriguing.

Thar she Blows!

Was there evidence for there being four dimensions for Einstein's General Relativity at all? No. But if they work, then we either accept that they really exist, or we just think of them as tools to help us get the right answer. Sooner or later it will be found that it right or wrong through experiment.

Okay, for celestial mechanics and things such as that, it does explain the interactions between celestial bodies.

The reason light bends around massive objects is because every neutron is a bound electron-proton pair. This is shown when a neturon decays into an electron, proton, and neutrino (the SM says anti-neutrino). In the formation of each neutron, the Aether is pinched (just like the rubber sheet used to explain General Relativity). This causes the Aether to be stretched immediately around the surface of the massive object. The more massive an object is, the more neutrons there are, and the more stretched the Aether is near its surface. This means light traveling past the massive object will have less Aether to travel through, with a gradual diminishing effect further away from the surface. This causes a physical lensing effect in the fabric of the Aether. The bending of the light can just as easily be calculated using the optics of Fresnel, and apply the refraction coefficient to the line of sight path with the angle vortex being the Sun. The precession of Mercury can be similarly calculated by taking the same refraction coefficient, and reduce it according to the distance of the planet from the Sun, as a reduction constant for the circumference of the planetary path. Mercury precesses because it has less Aether (space) to move through than do the outer planets.

As for the unified force theory not explaining shit, the unified force theory is just that, only a unified force theory. The Aether physics model is really just now in its infancy, and so far has only described a few nuances of the quantum mechanics--it describes quantum structure far better.

This post was edited by AEtheric on Aug 5 2009 10:58pm

Aether sounds like some serious bullshit.

afk collecting phlogiston.

Very funny.

To deny the existence of the Aether is to deny that space has any physical qualities whatsoever. General relativity IS a form of the Aether. Frame dragging is just a euphemism for the aether dragging along with objects. To assume the speed of light is constant and cannot be passed is to assume it is being limited by something. C is primary to general relativity, but it derives from the qualities of space, which are absolute permeability and permittivity, which is exactly the same as saying that space has physical qualities. Absolute permittivity and permeability have been measured, therefore the aether exists.

People just have a prejudice for anything that mentions the aether.

This post was edited by AEtheric on Aug 6 2009 07:06pm