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Jul 13 2009 07:52pm
Quote (ASMOLE @ Mon, Jul 13 2009, 06:48pm)
i dont think anyone knows what youre asking


what have you been up to?
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Jul 13 2009 07:55pm
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what have you been up to?


holidays

got sick after i went to a casino for a friend's bday- swine flu scare etc.

now waiting around for class sigon to open for a couple chem subjects so my timetable doesnt blow this semester
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Jul 13 2009 07:58pm
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holidays

got sick after i went to a casino for a friend's bday- swine flu scare etc.

now waiting around for class sigon to open for a couple chem subjects so my timetable doesnt blow this semester

you take ochem yet?


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Jul 13 2009 08:03pm
Quote (Kamikizzle @ Tue, Jul 14 2009, 11:58am)
you take ochem yet?

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/kamikizzle/theeye11.jpg


Yeah, think I have one ochem subject left though- like practical ochem synthesis or some shit.

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Jul 13 2009 08:05pm
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Yeah, think I have one ochem subject left though- like practical ochem synthesis or some shit.


im just starting ochem this fall. is it as bad as everyone says?
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Jul 13 2009 08:07pm
Quote (Kamikizzle @ Tue, Jul 14 2009, 12:05pm)
im just starting ochem this fall. is it as bad as everyone says?


depends what you're covering

organic reactions can be a bit of a hassle (like getting given a benzene ring then told what you have to make from that, assuming all catalysts, mechanisms, and reactants are available). carbohydrate chem is a piece of piss. stereochemistry isn't a problem.

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Jul 13 2009 08:36pm
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now a while back there was a discussion about "virtual particles" which more or less (when observed) break the law of conservation. from my understanding [feel free to correct me along the way] they "exist" in + and - form and dissapate in nearly unfathomably short periods of time. this literally means they are nonexistant, come into existence, and disappear. if they are observed, then they stay in our universe and dont decay at their normal rate (something like 10^-40 seconds). if they are not observed they dissapate
now my basic question of the thread is to ask why they are allowed to exist in the first place. it is said they "come into existence" due to the uncertainty principle. now i have a very basic understanding of this principle, so i have two main questions
what does unkown momentum and position have to do with virtual particles and why they exist
and why is it this this principle "trumps" laws like conservation of energy and momentum


heisenberg was a probably jew
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Jul 14 2009 03:11am
Quote (Kamikizzle @ Sun, Jul 12 2009, 04:37am)
now a while back there was a discussion about "virtual particles" which more or less (when observed) break the law of conservation. from my understanding [feel free to correct me along the way] they "exist" in + and - form and dissapate in nearly unfathomably short periods of time. this literally means they are nonexistant, come into existence, and disappear. if they are observed, then they stay in our universe and dont decay at their normal rate (something like 10^-40 seconds). if they are not observed they dissapate
now my basic question of the thread is to ask why they are allowed to exist in the first place. it is said they "come into existence" due to the uncertainty principle. now i have a very basic understanding of this principle, so i have two main questions
what does unkown momentum and position have to do with virtual particles and why they exist
and why is it this this principle "trumps" laws like conservation of energy and momentum


its about the uncertainty of energy and time
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Jul 14 2009 04:10am
Quote (Kamikizzle @ Sun, Jul 12 2009, 02:37pm)
now a while back there was a discussion about "virtual particles" which more or less (when observed) break the law of conservation. from my understanding [feel free to correct me along the way] they "exist" in + and - form and dissapate in nearly unfathomably short periods of time. this literally means they are nonexistant, come into existence, and disappear. if they are observed, then they stay in our universe and dont decay at their normal rate (something like 10^-40 seconds). if they are not observed they dissapate
now my basic question of the thread is to ask why they are allowed to exist in the first place. it is said they "come into existence" due to the uncertainty principle. now i have a very basic understanding of this principle, so i have two main questions
what does unkown momentum and position have to do with virtual particles and why they exist
and why is it this this principle "trumps" laws like conservation of energy and momentum


Sounds uncertain in principle.


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#20
Jul 14 2009 07:45am
I (Think) if i understand what you're saying, they duplicate this method easily. Fire a single photon/particle of light (Or WTF ever you want to call it) down a tube, and it'll show up normally. Put something in the middle of the tube, and the single particle will split, and be in two different places at the same time. Their theory (At least the people's that I saw this on) was that there's more dimensions then we know about. You can't see it, you can't feel it, therefore, we can't prove it. At least not yet. Just wait for that particle accelerator they're working on to be finished, so they can try and create some mini-black holes. (They one they have know isn't big enough)
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