so you dont believe that we were created but rather evolved, with no outside influence from sumthing higher correct?

Incorrect, I believe that nature controls balance.
My question is, what is nature?
I don't believe that we evolve.
What's the definition of higher being?

This post was edited by Coca_Cola on Apr 3 2009 09:24am

i believe nature is a lot of living things co existing with eachother. as to what is everythings purpose idk. but nature is a balance of living things

Oh, I see.
What is your definition of God?
A spirit that has created the universe?

correct. all powerful all knowing. all loving.

for a very rough outline

I got you, thanks for answering my questions.

not a problem

and whats funny, is that its not science...

Luck is just a name we give things. same with Karama...


in the end it all boil's down to the law of attraction imo

nature is the maximum possible level of comprehension of conscious existence in its entirety (one persons understanding + all missunderstood or not understood components)
perception of some aspect of nature is a minimum possible level of comprehension of conscious understanding
conscious and unconscious understandings coexist to facilitate the perception of reality simultaneously, this is to say that you cannot only experience reality unconsciously to negate my explanation. Experiencing reality creates consciousness and unconsciousness simultaneously; they can't not coexist because if they didn't we wouldn't exist, thereby negating the value of nature (the definition of existence in its entirety).

To elaborate a little further on why they need to coexist; physiologically speaking we have evolved through layers of comprehension, comprehension isn't a static in its quality. People process the most elaborate information available to their senses, and can control how elaborate the stimuli is that we subject ourselves too. When you practice lower levels of sense based comprehension, your body is more keenly aware and responsive to and of those lower level stimuli, but as you focus on increasingly higher levels of stimuli your body tunes itself to more complex concepts, devoting an increasingly smaller portion of thought to less complex repetitive tasks, ultimately resolving itself in an unconscious level of reality beneath a sharper understanding of a more complex reality.

This post was edited by Xkorpyo on Apr 9 2009 01:58am

and as far as god is concerned, he/she is just the worlds first marketing scheme based on superstition of the unknown.