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Mar 30 2009 06:43am
i'm thinking its because if we had 2 hearts they would get off rhythm and actually damage each other
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Mar 30 2009 09:02am
Quote (Garethsir @ Mon, Mar 30 2009, 12:43pm)
i'm thinking its because if we had 2 hearts they would get off rhythm and actually damage each other


The body does amazing things.

Working our heart with everything else in our body in rhythm...

2 hearts would work none the less, but as previously said. In years of evolution.
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Mar 30 2009 11:44am
i'm talking in a mechanical sense as though it were pipes and a system of liquids


if it like was a garden hose, and you opened the end of it, it would squirt out right?(in a constant fashion)

now what would happen if it was not constant? what if it moved in pulses?

then you would have to use different mechanics to look at it

the blood can not pass the heart unless the heart pumps it through.

so, if there was 2 separate hearts on one system and they got out of rhythm, there would be pressure buildup behind one or the other of them, and it would cause damage probably.
(unless it was 2 completely separate circulatory systems, then i don't exactly know if it would make a difference in that case
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i wonder too garethsir

i wonder too...
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May 6 2009 12:49am
copypasta for science

"The adults of all extant echinoderms are radially symmetrical. A superficial bilateral organization has evolved twice, in irregular echinoids and holothuroids, but is based on an underlying five-fold organization of skeleton and most organ systems, and is clearly secondary. Higher order radial symmetry (e.g., seven-fold or nine-fold) has evolved on several occasions, and is also clearly a secondary modification. The evolutionary origins of five-fold symmetry remain obscure. Some early Paleozoic echinoderms are not radially symmetrical (e.g., carpoids and helicoplacoids), while a possible echinoderm from the Vendian (Arkarua) has five-fold radial body organization."

But seriously, bilateral and radial symmetry are part of our evolutionary lineage. It was one of the first traits to develop in multicellular organisms, and that trait is common to all that original species descendants.

Look up phylogenetic trees, each node is defined by a trait, where a novel feature causes a branch in the tree. Bilateral symmetry is one of the very first branches after prokaryotes became eukaryotes and became multicellular. It stems from the various chemical signals used to move cells into proper place during growth/development. You can't really do one side and not the other if you grow out from the middle and use chemical signals to places cells in the proper places.

Phylogenetic tree information: http://tolweb.org/tree/

Click a node, it tells you what characteristics define that group.
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May 6 2009 04:26am
Pumping blood through the circulatory system is a very energy consuming process for the body -- probably the reason why we only have one heart. (Two wouldn't be an advantage anyways, our BP can't be past a certain point anyways so two would just be a waste and probably dangerous.)
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Quote (Sioux @ Wed, May 6 2009, 01:49am)
copypasta for science

"The adults of all extant echinoderms are radially symmetrical. A superficial bilateral organization has evolved twice, in irregular echinoids and holothuroids, but is based on an underlying five-fold organization of skeleton and most organ systems, and is clearly secondary. Higher order radial symmetry (e.g., seven-fold or nine-fold) has evolved on several occasions, and is also clearly a secondary modification. The evolutionary origins of five-fold symmetry remain obscure. Some early Paleozoic echinoderms are not radially symmetrical (e.g., carpoids and helicoplacoids), while a possible echinoderm from the Vendian (Arkarua) has five-fold radial body organization."

But seriously, bilateral and radial symmetry are part of our evolutionary lineage. It was one of the first traits to develop in multicellular organisms, and that trait is common to all that original species descendants.

Look up phylogenetic trees, each node is defined by a trait, where a novel feature causes a branch in the tree. Bilateral symmetry is one of the very first branches after prokaryotes became eukaryotes and became multicellular. It stems from the various chemical signals used to move cells into proper place during growth/development. You can't really do one side and not the other if you grow out from the middle and use chemical signals to places cells in the proper places.

Phylogenetic tree information: http://tolweb.org/tree/

Click a node, it tells you what characteristics define that group.

anyone interested in starfish regeneration or lizard tail regeneration?

:huh:

i'm sure they have to be doing some kinda studies somewhere
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Jun 16 2009 08:58pm
how god would ur micro be with 6 fingers on each hand?
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Jun 16 2009 09:15pm
Quote (Garethsir @ Tue, 17 Feb 2009, 13:24)
ever notice how most animals are symmetric (at least in external appearance)? I wonder why this is?


bilateral symmetry
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