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Dec 19 2008 10:25am
Quote (Kezza @ Fri, Dec 19 2008, 10:06am)
do we know they exist or are they completely a theory devised to explain the unexplainable?


for the n'th time, scientific theory != theory in common language, what you are referring to is hypothesis. The existence of black holes is pretty much a fact but its nature is hypothesized, see Hawking radiation etc.
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Dec 19 2008 05:57pm
well, a star collapses on its own weight, and gets compressed into something extremely small. because all this weight is squished together, it has a big gravitational pull. (gravity is based on the weight of the object that pulls, not the size). this gravitational field pulls in everything in a given distance. everything that gets sucked in becomes compressed into where the remains of the star are, making the total weight higher, and therefore making the gravity stronger (can pull objects from farther away, and less things can escape). black holes are so strong that they can even pull light into themselves. because the light cant escape, we dont see what is inside the hole, and it appears black.

thats about as simple as i can put it

oh and when things get sucked in, they get ripped into an infinite number of pieces, making the core have next to no size, but a huge amount of weight.

This post was edited by SmashMaster on Dec 19 2008 06:00pm
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Quote (SmashMaster @ Fri, Dec 19 2008, 03:57pm)
well, a star collapses on its own weight, and gets compressed into something extremely small. because all this weight is squished together, it has a big gravitational pull. (gravity is based on the weight of the object that pulls, not the size). this gravitational field pulls in everything in a given distance. everything that gets sucked in becomes compressed into where the remains of the star are, making the total weight higher, and therefore making the gravity stronger (can pull objects from farther away, and less things can escape). black holes are so strong that they can even pull light into themselves. because the light cant escape, we dont see what is inside the hole, and it appears black.

thats about as simple as i can put it

oh and when things get sucked in, they get ripped into an infinite number of pieces, making the core have next to no size, but a huge amount of weight.


the "core" literally has no volume, and by weight you mean mass
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yea, just trying to make it simple
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Dec 19 2008 06:24pm
Could a black hole pull in dark matter?
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Quote (BeanSoldier @ Fri, Dec 19 2008, 04:24pm)
Could a black hole pull in dark matter?

i doubt we know enough about either to make a conclusion
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Quote (BeanSoldier @ Fri, 19 Dec 2008, 18:24)
Could a black hole pull in dark matter?


I would assume yes because if dark matter exist and our method of detecting it is gravitational microscoping meaning it has a gravitational pull on other objects then it should be affected by a black hole or it should affect a black hole smile.gif but thats just my idea
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Quote (SmashMaster @ Sat, Dec 20 2008, 10:57am)
well, a star collapses on its own weight, and gets compressed into something extremely small. because all this weight is squished together, it has a big gravitational pull. (gravity is based on the weight of the object that pulls, not the size). this gravitational field pulls in everything in a given distance. everything that gets sucked in becomes compressed into where the remains of the star are, making the total weight higher, and therefore making the gravity stronger (can pull objects from farther away, and less things can escape). black holes are so strong that they can even pull light into themselves. because the light cant escape, we dont see what is inside the hole, and it appears black.

thats about as simple as i can put it

oh and when things get sucked in, they get ripped into an infinite number of pieces, making the core have next to no size, but a huge amount of weight.


gravity is based on mass not density so it would have the same gravitational attraction as the original star that collapsed. this is actually a method of detecting black holes, that is the planets that were apart of the star system end up orbiting around no discernible star. in most cases, it would have less mass because of the resulting supernova (big fucking implosion/explosion) before the collapse.
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Dec 24 2008 03:23am
Quote (Kezza @ Fri, Dec 19 2008, 06:06am)
do we know they exist or are they completely a theory devised to explain the unexplainable?


They definitely exist, we are 100% sure of this.
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Dec 24 2008 05:38am
Quote (ass666 @ Sat, Dec 20 2008, 02:03am)
I would assume yes because if dark matter exist and our method of detecting it is gravitational microscoping meaning it has a gravitational pull on other objects then it should be affected by a black hole or it should affect a black hole smile.gif but thats just my idea


Technically, any theories we have about black/dark/anti matter is that resists gravitational pull right? Its like the counter force...well from whatever I've read at least.
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