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Feb 18 2016 04:45pm
What is your opiniom about current mental health system? Do you think they are going through the right way on their investigations? Do they relay excessively on medication? Do they even know what they are talking about?

I am a huge fan of psychology, but also a huge criticist.
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Feb 18 2016 06:35pm
Quote (LordSinfriends @ Feb 18 2016 05:45pm)
What is your opinion about current mental health system?


It's probably better than nothing, but probably the biggest misconception is that a Doctor fixes things and aside from cuts and broken bones, they just relieve symptoms mostly.
The brain is very complicated and were just beginning to understand how things work, and psychology is no stranger to myths, assumptions, theories and preconceptions to make you think they are qualified, but you can't heal the brain with a prescription nor understand perspective if you lack that quality yourself.

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Do you think they are going through the right way on their investigations?


Not sure what you mean.

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Do they rely excessively on medication?


Probably, the approach seems to be what medicines can make you most tolerable to someone else, it's just a guessing game really.


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Do they even know what they are talking about?


Sometimes, depends on the case but In general - one man's opinion is just that - an opinion.



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Cranial surgery, known as trephination, is one of the first ever surgical practices and is known to have begun in the Neolithic era. It involves drilling a hole in the skull of a living person to cure illness such as convulsions, headaches, infections or fractures. ... there is evidence to suggest that in ancient times people believed that illness was caused by a trapped spirit and that drilling a hole would allow the spirit to escape.


Our current mental health "treatment" is comparable to this old "medical procedure". Right now, we are in the Dark Ages of mental health.

A hundred years from now, people will look back on our current era of mental health system and laugh to themselves about how people could have been stupid enough to administer a treatment that was more harmful to the patient than the illness ever was.
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Feb 19 2016 12:30pm
I was watching Craig Ferguson's new show on History last night and the topic was 6 of the worst medical lies ever and a bunch were used to cure mental illness including pulling teeth and lobotomy. All those medical lies were in the past though, things are much more coated in sugar today.
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It's probably better than nothing, but probably the biggest misconception is that a Doctor fixes things and aside from cuts and broken bones, they just relieve symptoms mostly.
The brain is very complicated and were just beginning to understand how things work, and psychology is no stranger to myths, assumptions, theories and preconceptions to make you think they are qualified, but you can't heal the brain with a prescription nor understand perspective if you lack that quality yourself.



Not sure what you mean.



Probably, the approach seems to be what medicines can make you most tolerable to someone else, it's just a guessing game really.




Sometimes, depends on the case but In general - one man's opinion is just that - an opinion.


In psychology (at least in Europe) you cannot prescribe anything. Therapy is something that you develop by connecting to a human being. And anyway, most of the psychologist I know are really influenced by their own bias (until their late 20s).

I meant, for example, UK subsidizing real primary mental health care. Instead of the American Psychiatrist Association looking for more drugs to get studied and legalized.

Drugs for Attention Deficit Hiperactivity Disorder are anphetamines. And that is not a treatment. Is some chronic procedure that will end with the kid being a dysfunctional being because of that drug.

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In psychology (at least in Europe) you cannot prescribe anything. Therapy is something that you develop by connecting to a human being. And anyway, most of the psychologist I know are really influenced by their own bias (until their late 20s).

I meant, for example, UK subsidizing real primary mental health care. Instead of the American Psychiatrist Association looking for more drugs to get studied and legalized.

Drugs for Attention Deficit Hiperactivity Disorder are anphetamines. And that is not a treatment. Is some chronic procedure that will end with the kid being a dysfunctional being because of that drug.


Not sure how it works in the rest of the world but here in Canada you can visit a therapist, my ex gf was one and she had a masters degree in sociology and she mostly did couples counseling but as well some mental heath issues, but she couldn't prescribe any drugs. An actual Psychologist is a medical designation and can actually prescribe drugs although it's usually mothers who insist on some drug because they can't deal with the chaos. The idea is: well the problem can't be with me so it must be with them right?
ugg welcome to crazy logic 2016!
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Not sure how it works in the rest of the world but here in Canada you can visit a therapist, my ex gf was one and she had a masters degree in sociology and she mostly did couples counseling but as well some mental heath issues, but she couldn't prescribe any drugs. An actual Psychologist is a medical designation and can actually prescribe drugs although it's usually mothers who insist on some drug because they can't deal with the chaos. The idea is: well the problem can't be with me so it must be with them right?
ugg welcome to crazy logic 2016!


How the heck can a Psychologist prescribe something? I mean... I am some short of asperger who loves learning about farmacology, I habe bought plenty of handbooks of psychiatry and farmacology (Just needed one for my career, the rest was for fun), and I only would be able to control the effects of a few medications. And those medications usually work on 99% of patients (i.e. antidepressants like Prozac in eating disorders) but I would never used that. I'd rather work with a freak shrink who knows much more than me.

And sure, buddie. On the college clinic we are dealing with a 7 years old big boy who's suppossed to be a beast at home and school. We talked with his proffessor, and she said "he's quite nervous, but he's also a leader. A good fellow and very intelligent". But mami and dadi keep saying he has ADHD and they cant handle his fears (7 years old and fears to darkness. OH REALLY THAT WEIRD, FUCKING BITCH?????). And the funny thing is that we try to do some "behavioral tests" like asking him to brush his teeth, and if not, mama and dadi wont allow him to watch cartoons. HE BEHAVED FOR THE WHOLE WEEKD AND BITCH AND MORON FORGOT TO PUT THE CONSEQUENCE OF NOT WATCHING CARTOONS WHEN HE FORGOT TO BRUSH HIS TEETH.
Like: My son has a problem, but I do not. If he forgets to do something, but he doesnt behave bad (at least bad to them) I wont do anything to help my son. I just want him not to bother me, if he has to take anphetamines, is fucking alright dude. He cant take heroin and its okay to me, but if he bothers me I will medicate him.
Thats how the bitchy mum thinks :/


So yes, I am a moron who doesnt know how to properly add grammars, but most important: most of the children (98%) dont really have PSYCHOLOGICAL issues. Their parents do. And parents will never admit it.

Unless you know how to be really persuasive by touching their weak spots.


P.d. I called their daddys "bitch and moron", and its quite unproffessional, but I do really hate people who treats their children like crazy shit because they heard something on tv or read something stupid on the news. Kids dont deserve to pay their problems.

This post was edited by LordSinfriends on Feb 20 2016 03:52am
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Psychiatry an Industry of Death Museum. This post reminds me I have to go visit there.

The problem is so vast that entire religious movements are fueled by it.
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