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Oct 18 2015 01:45pm
First:

Mass bends space inwards its centre, it doesnt bend it as a hole.

The universe also doesnt curve, you dont reach any location on the other side of the universe through a wormhole.

They dont exist nor ever will.


Science uses einstein equation to prove the existence of wormholes, however einstein equation is limited by our time and space definition, anything that comes out of that equation implies the existence of time and space as we know it in our dimension through our perception.

But there is no space nor time in the universe.

Space and time is always related to a certain object (us), if we were the size of the universe then there would be no space for us and so there wouldnt be time either.

We assume the existence of space and time due to our physical size compared to the universe.


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There isnt any object in the universe, there is only a concentration of mass/energy in a single point.
Earth isnt an object, earth is the concentration of mass/energy of all that there is in that point and place in the universe including you.

Earth doesnt pull you towards it, the distortion of space and time it creates is what makes you feel like moving towards what seems to be the centre of the earth.

Amounts of energy in a single space distorts and stretches space "fabrics" and it feels like its pulling you, which we call gravity.


Third:

Gravity can travel in time according to us, because of how limited our perception of space and time is.

The way gravity travels through time is because its instantaneous and doesnt need to actually move/travel through space to reach anywhere.
As soon as it exists it immediately reaches out its boundaries.

While we assume that time is dependent on the speed of light (again limited/broken einstein equation) and gravity is instantaneous then we humans can say gravity travels through time (human math wise) as light takes time to reach anywhere.


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Oct 18 2015 02:13pm
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Oct 18 2015 02:26pm
While Einstein theory of general relativity might not be able to explain the possibilities of Space + time warping in the standard 4 flat dimensions that we experience, String theory suggest the possibility of 6 more warped dimension where such phenom may exist.
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Oct 18 2015 02:44pm
Quote (card_sultan @ 18 Oct 2015 20:26)
While Einstein theory of general relativity might not be able to explain the possibilities of Space + time warping in the standard 4 flat dimensions that we experience, String theory suggest the possibility of 6 more warped dimension where such phenom may exist.


Good post, I know exactly what you mean.

However people tend to forget/ignore the fact that string theory starts to fall into spirituality and quantum physics, which automatically assumes a different kind of universe from this 3 dimensional one that we perceive.

So wormholes as the current definition they go by, won't exist there either because they are part of this universe (science wise) if that makes sense.
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Oct 18 2015 03:38pm
Sci Fi fans are shocked and bewildered, possibly angry - pm me if you need ways to shield yourself from the rocks (which don't actually exist)
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Oct 18 2015 05:44pm
Kinda abstract concept.
We can't prove anything of this for sure, and the risk of flow into theology is high.
But i agree on the fact that most way of thinkin is based on classic and obsolete base.
Anyway i don't get the fact that there won't be space/time in the first post
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Oct 18 2015 11:59pm
Lay off the weed and take an actual physics course. Although to get to the point of understanding that you need for this you would need to take about 3 years of physics courses.
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Oct 19 2015 11:32am
Quote (FedOx @ Oct 18 2015 03:45pm)
First:

Mass bends space inwards its centre, it doesnt bend it as a hole.

The universe also doesnt curve, you dont reach any location on the other side of the universe through a wormhole.

They dont exist nor ever will.


Science uses einstein equation to prove the existence of wormholes, however einstein equation is limited by our time and space definition, anything that comes out of that equation implies the existence of time and space as we know it in our dimension through our perception.

But there is no space nor time in the universe.

Space and time is always related to a certain object (us), if we were the size of the universe then there would be no space for us and so there wouldnt be time either.

We assume the existence of space and time due to our physical size compared to the universe.


Second:

There isnt any object in the universe, there is only a concentration of mass/energy in a single point.
Earth isnt an object, earth is the concentration of mass/energy of all that there is in that point and place in the universe including you.

Earth doesnt pull you towards it, the distortion of space and time it creates is what makes you feel like moving towards what seems to be the centre of the earth.

Amounts of energy in a single space distorts and stretches space "fabrics" and it feels like its pulling you, which we call gravity.


Third:

Gravity can travel in time according to us, because of how limited our perception of space and time is.

The way gravity travels through time is because its instantaneous and doesnt need to actually move/travel through space to reach anywhere.
As soon as it exists it immediately reaches out its boundaries.

While we assume that time is dependent on the speed of light (again limited/broken einstein equation) and gravity is instantaneous then we humans can say gravity travels through time (human math wise) as light takes time to reach anywhere.


i think someone just watched interstellar lol

i think you are actually talking plain gibberish. space and time are both fluent and the same. theoretically if you can bend space you can bend time. you might be able to create a wormhole but there would be noway to control where you exit from.time does exist even if it is from out limited perspective of it. we can measure it therefore it exists. if time did not exist we would not die and be immortal right? my point of view as that entropy and time are related in a sense as entropy is a nutural way in which things decay

This post was edited by kalelvszod on Oct 19 2015 11:33am
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